DameAgnes Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Talking about coming back into full communion with Rome, on Life on the Rock http://www.sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/52,lifeontherock Aspirants become postulants (see October 11) http://www.sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/39,newsandupcomingevents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemma Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 [quote name='DameAgnes' date='27 October 2009 - 10:04 PM' timestamp='1256691874' post='1992456'] Talking about coming back into full communion with Rome, on Life on the Rock http://www.sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/52,lifeontherock Aspirants become postulants (see October 11) http://www.sistersofmarymotherofthechurch.org/39,newsandupcomingevents [/quote] Which one was the Phatmasser? Amanda? Blessings, Gemma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisLove726 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 [quote name='Gemma' date='28 October 2009 - 10:18 AM' timestamp='1256739510' post='1992717'] Which one was the Phatmasser? Amanda? Blessings, Gemma [/quote] I think you are thinking the same thing I did. I thought this was referring to the Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist in Ann Arbor, MI until I clicked the link. It didn't register that the last word was "Church" not "Eucharist." Amanda ("MandyKhatoon") entered the DSMMEs in Ann Arbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomist-in-Training Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Someone from Phatmass did enter there though. Should be in one of the summer threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlmom Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Earlier this year "Piobaire" mentioned something about entering this order. I don't think she has at this point--her name, Allison, does not match any of the current aspirants. Maybe she still checks in here from time to time and can update us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisLove726 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 [quote name='stlmom' date='28 October 2009 - 05:01 PM' timestamp='1256763675' post='1992912'] Earlier this year "Piobaire" mentioned something about entering this order. I don't think she has at this point--her name, Allison, does not match any of the current aspirants. Maybe she still checks in here from time to time and can update us. [/quote] I believe Allison is still trying to raise money to pay off the remaining school loan debt she has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laetitia crucis Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) Wasn't there another Phatmasser that was to be entering with them -- "Sister Ali"? I think she had entered with the DSMME, but then left and was discerning with these sisters. Hmmm... ? lc *Edit: Or is this the same person... "Piobaire"? Edited October 31, 2009 by laetitia crucis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisLove726 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) [quote name='laetitia crucis' date='31 October 2009 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1256999958' post='1994383'] Wasn't there another Phatmasser that was to be entering with them -- "Sister Ali"? I think she had entered with the DSMME, but then left and was discerning with these sisters. Hmmm... ? lc *Edit: Or is this the same person... "Piobaire"? [/quote] It might be the same person. Allison was the one who I believe entered the DSMMEs and left a while ago, and is discerning the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Church. Both of the screennames were before my time, so I'm not sure. Edited October 31, 2009 by InHisLove726 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Sister Ali entered the Lockport Dominicans. Allison or Piobaire was entering this community but I don't think she has yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laetitia crucis Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 [quote name='HisChild' date='31 October 2009 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1257014725' post='1994446'] Sister Ali entered the Lockport Dominicans. Allison or Piobaire was entering this community but I don't think she has yet. [/quote] Ah, thanks for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DameAgnes Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Anyone had any news from the Lockport Dominicans lately? How are they doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 [quote name='DameAgnes' date='31 October 2009 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1257020959' post='1994496'] Anyone had any news from the Lockport Dominicans lately? How are they doing? [/quote] They just accepted my friend request from ages ago on Facebook. They seem to be doing well. There doesn't seem to be any big updates though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awyers Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 [quote name='stlmom' date='28 October 2009 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1256763675' post='1992912'] Earlier this year "Piobaire" mentioned something about entering this order. I don't think she has at this point--her name, Allison, does not match any of the current aspirants. Maybe she still checks in here from time to time and can update us. [/quote] Hello all I have been away from phatmass from some time enjoying the silence and stillness of our Lord but I do check in from time to time...nice to see you are still thinking of me lol I had applied to enter SMMC but was unable to enter due to finances. Our Lord is so good to us and especially gentle towards those of us lost in the world of perpetual discernment. Although that door seemed to be closing and I felt lost and confused He helped me to see what I believe to be my true calling and I am now discerning with a community of cloistered nuns which, God willing, I will be entering sometime in the next few months. As some of you may know I was with the SMME for some time before leaving and since then visited MANY active orders, some of which I loved and felt called to enter. However at each junction something would come up that would close the door be it immigration issues or finances like above. I can now see that all my struggles were because I was not truly surrendered to our Lord and open to His will. I kept trying to 'force' the active vocation and convinced myself I could never be called to the cloister. The best advice I ever received from a dear Alhambra Carmelite (which may seem obvious but somehow got lost on me in the perpetual hunt for my 'home') is that the only thing one should really focus on is the charism of the community. Grace build on nature and there will be something about the charism that will resonate with you......the seed of the charism in some way is in the heart of the individual being called. I cant really do justice to what she said and maybe I am not called to as it was a word for me personally but maybe it will help someone else as well. From someone who has lived the life and struggled greatly discerning over the years I find we can sometimes get so caught up in what on order wears and all kind of little details which can confuse us. When I sat down and asked myself what I truly wanted in one or two sentences or better yet, what I believe God wanted of me, what my greatest desire or inclination was I knew it was a life of reparative thanksgiving and perpetual adoration. Once I articulated that the rest fell into place and I realised that this was my hearts desire all along and trying to 'force' a fit with a teaching order or a nursing order or whatever it may be was simply foolish even though I was telling myself I was totally open to our Lord's will. How God must chuckle at our hard headedness at times! Whew, dont know where all that came from lol! Thank you for thinking of me and please keep me in your prayers as I do all of you! God bless, Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Allison, it was good to hear from you again! I absolutely understand where you're coming from. When I first started discerning, I was pretty ignorant regarding how to discern. I heard the Holy Spirit works on attractions so when I visited I waited until I felt attracted to the community LOL Not only that but because my brothers are 12 and 15 yrs younger than me, I thought that perhaps if I entered a contemplative-active community I'd still be able to go home and visit them as I knew my parents would rarely visit me. I thought that if I entered a cloister I'd never see my brothers again. So when I entered the DCJ and the Sisters of Life a year later, I discerned I was called there because of their fervent prayer live, yes, but also because they allowed home visits. I almost didn't enter the DCJ because the province I was discerning with (not sure if it's this way all around) only allowed visits every 2 years! There's immaturity for you. No wonder neither worked out. When I entered the PCPA 3 years ago, I was discerning with Carmel and with them. When the PCPA asked me to enter and I hadn't heard anything back from Carmel, I was so impatient to enter as I was getting older that I said yes to the PCPA. AND on the week before my entrance the Carmel I was discerning with wrote me back asking me to do a live-in. ~sighs~ When I left the PCPA, I had to take a REALLY hard look at myself and the way I discerned. I went through all the stages of grief, because I thought my vocation was dead. I even, for a brief while, stopped praying. Then I noticed that I was picking up some bad habits, all because of my lack of prayer life. I started praying again, asking to know what to do. I went to a couple Third Order meetings at my parish, but didn't feel called there. I started Adoring and it was during my weekly Adoration that that pull to religious life returned. And while I was there, like you, I felt like our Lord was asking me to look at 'me'. Look at what sort of prayer, what sort of charism was already in small part in my life and then see if a community matched me and not the other way around. I have tremendous debt, too. But I know that our Lord will assist me to pay off this debt when it's time for me to enter, and I'm no longer upset with the fact that already some communities find me older (in my late 30s) because He will place me where He wants me to be and take care of the age issue, whether it won't be a factor in the community or whether they will make an exception. I think I might have found the community for me, but time will tell eh? Your post really gave me a light spirit this morning, and I will certainly keep you in my prayers! He will show you His way for you, which is the place where you will not only be the most joyful but also the place where you can attain your sanctity. God bless you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awyers Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dear His Child, What a beautiful post. You were able to articulate what I was trying to get at beautifully! It seems we have had very similar journeys. Perhaps it is because of our age but I venture to guess that many a discerner has experienced the same thing and hopefully some of this will be a help. It was such a blessing for me to discover, as you put it, how ignorant I was when it came to authentic discernment. I am still amazed, and thankfully now able to laugh rather then cry, at how deeply I fooled myself and was trying to force my will on God all the while believing I was doing exactly as He wished. I am so relieved that our Lord truly is the Hound of Heaven and doesnt stop 'hunting' us! I too felt great pressure due to my somewhat advanced age and the pain in my mum's eyes. When that 35yr age limit is staring you in the face you start to get a little worried that time will run out which is ridiculous if we truly believe our Lord is in control. I also focused on orders that allowed home visits as I feared it would kill my mum to never come home. Thankfully through my time with SMME and the many discernment vists over the past two years we have both grown and He has blessed us with the grace to accept the separation. It is not easy but take it from me that even if your parents dont understand or support they will come to over time if we surrender it. It is so hard to 'let go and let God' but truly His timing is perfect and I think we are both examples of that. We may have tried a little too hard and God allowed us to enter communities that we were not called to all the while holding us up and gently guiding us. I think what you said about discovring what charism is already in us in some small way and then finding a community to match, NOT the other way around is essential in this whole discernment thing. I used to always look for the community I was created for but that dear Carmelite said it is really the other way around and the person comes first, the charism is at the service of the person and not the other way around....a charism is created to fit the person and not that a person has to force themselves into a charism. Hard to articulate! As hard as it is in the midst of struggles to understand all this all I can say is embrace the struggles! I am so grateful that doors closed along the way as I could have entered another community I was not called to. These past years of confusion and struggles have stripped away so much that was preventing me from being open to the cloister and without them I dont know where I would be now. I certainly was not ready for the cloister three years ago when all this began but I am now.....God willing! It is so true that growth occurs in the valleys and not on the mountain tops. So for all you who may be struggling stick with it! Surrender to our Lord and especially surrender your vocation to our Blessed Mother and St Joseph. God bless you His Child and all you brave discerners out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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