CatherineM Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Youngest of six here, and dang grateful that they didn't decide to stop at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggietales Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 October 2009 - 05:09 PM' timestamp='1255208971' post='1982561'] Youngest of six here, and dang grateful that they didn't decide to stop at 5. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHisLove726 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 October 2009 - 05:09 PM' timestamp='1255208971' post='1982561'] Youngest of six here, and dang grateful that they didn't decide to stop at 5. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='10 October 2009 - 11:43 AM' timestamp='1255189436' post='1982375'] You actually failed to acknowledge mine when you took my comment and turned it into your own my changing two or three words.[/QUOTE] Actually he did. He wasn't trying to plagiarize you because it was just such an awesome one liner. Rather he was recycling you odd claim to show how weak it was. [QUOTE]Care to elaborate, sweetie? [/quote] Well either you really didn't get his point-which is somewhat hard to believe- or you avoided his point to start a tangent on the originality or lack thereof of his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='Catholictothecore' date='10 October 2009 - 12:15 PM' timestamp='1255191344' post='1982380'] NFP is a healthy means for parents to remain open to each other sexually if, for some legitimate reason, it is impractical for them to concieve at the present time. Think of it this way; technically, a woman could have 4 babies in three years. That's not healthy, and the Church recognizes that. NFP is NOT contraception. If God still wishes to play his part and bring a life into being, the couple is open to that. It's just being smart about each other. [/quote] That's a distinction without a difference. Condoms demean women because it says the man considers her good enoguh to have sex with, but not to have his child. The exact same thing can be said about NFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' date='10 October 2009 - 06:16 PM' timestamp='1255212986' post='1982592'] Condoms demean women because it says the man considers her good enoguh to have sex with, but not to have his child. The exact same thing can be said about NFP. [/quote] I replied to your question about NFP a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' date='10 October 2009 - 06:13 PM' timestamp='1255212784' post='1982585'] Actually he did. He wasn't trying to plagiarize you because it was just such an awesome one liner. Rather he was recycling you odd claim to show how weak it was. Well either you really didn't get his point-which is somewhat hard to believe- or you avoided his point to start a tangent on the originality or lack thereof of his post. [/quote] Not sure why you responded to something that is between me and two other people, but okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='10 October 2009 - 02:47 PM' timestamp='1255200464' post='1982479'] If only you were a Catholic. [/quote] The rumours are true!! *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='Kitty' date='10 October 2009 - 03:19 PM' timestamp='1255202392' post='1982490'] Well that's all nice and well for you, but what about Christian families who aren't so lucky? Obviously they're not trusting in God enough, right? I don't think they would be saying "God is awesome" when they cannot find a job to pay for the food to feed all those children. [/quote] You'd be surprised how many Christians praise God even in their struggles and sufferings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 October 2009 - 05:09 PM' timestamp='1255208971' post='1982561'] Youngest of six here, and dang grateful that they didn't decide to stop at 5. [/quote] +10000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='10 October 2009 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1255189436' post='1982375'] Care to elaborate, sweetie? [/quote] I just think that saying condoms objectify women because "you're good enough to have sex with but not good enough to have my child" is ridiculous. It's not a matter of the woman not being good enough. The woman may not even want a child, they do have a say in it too, ya know? Honestly, I think that viewing women as a means to pop out as many children as possible is more degrading than making the choice to use contraception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 is there another means with which to have children with that I don't know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='10 October 2009 - 08:00 PM' timestamp='1255222831' post='1982680'] is there another means with which to have children with that I don't know about? [/quote] Did I say that women cannot or should not have children? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='10 October 2009 - 08:55 PM' timestamp='1255222555' post='1982679'] Honestly, I think that viewing women as a means to pop out as many children as possible is more degrading than making the choice to use contraception. [/quote]WORD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='10 October 2009 - 08:18 PM' timestamp='1255227536' post='1982770'] Did I say that women cannot or should not have children? No. [/quote] you just make it sound like women bearing children is degrading. assuming they are 'popping out' as many children as possible, aren't they willingly 'popping out' children? If they are, how is that degrading? A women (and man) make a choice to bring life into the world, and THAT is degrading to women? srsly? or am i misunderstanding your argument? Kinda makes me think women are the bomb-diggity. For a woman to experience labor once, and choose to experience it multiple times to bring new life forth, that is pretty admirable IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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