Imputation Of Righteousness

[Winchester]

[quote name='Selah' date='07 October 2009 - 01:36 PM' timestamp='1254936966' post='1979996']
My Lord, what is it with Fundies and the victim complex? You have the gaul to compare yourself to St. Stephen...you aren't suffering. You're posting on a MESSAGE BOARD.

Gah.

And Winnie is right. It was awesome.
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Gaul
[img]http://davidderrick.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the-dying-gaul.jpg[/img]

Sorry. Had to.

[Selah]

eh?

[Winchester]

Gall vs. Gaul.

[Paddington]

[quote name='Stormstopper' date='07 October 2009 - 02:33 PM' timestamp='1254936792' post='1979991']
It certainly is understandable coming from a biblical illiterate catholic such as yourself who refuses to interact with the word of God which Jesus commanded to do, but instead, wistfully leaves his brain at the Vatican doorstep.
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What's it called when sb says this to DairyG?

[Stormstopper]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='07 October 2009 - 12:00 PM' timestamp='1254934848' post='1979939']
Oooooh, I see how this game works now. You pretend I said something else, and then respond to that instead of what I actually said.
Ok, let me try. In fact I'll take it just a bit further, like I mentioned above. Watch this now, it'll be cool.


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You must be out of your mind Ni-Ob! I pasted your quote directly from your post and you have the gaul to say "you are pretending I said something". PRETENDING?! You specifically said Mama T's good works were a purgation and I rejected that conclusion. Are you on medication?
And don't waste your time with the Mama T quotes. The Word of God is completely against HER statement and the Catholic belief in general when it comes to the cleansing power of good deeds. You can't support that horrific belief by Scripture if your life depended on it and you know it. WHy then do you believe and risk your eternal soul on it?
Oh I know. The Roman Catholic Church said so and who cares that the Bible condemns good works as our passport to heaven in no less than 35 places. So like vultures you just swoop down with all the insults and never-ending foolishness. Your attitude is that of your forefathers....you'd burn me at the stake in the blink of an eye just as you did them.....MILLIONS of them, whom Jesus predicted so accurately when He said, "the time is coming when they will kill you, THINKING THEY DO GOD SERVICE". This is EXACTLY what happened, as history shows. Before they lit the match they would always preface their filthy deed with, "And this is to the glory of God."
There's no difference today. You think by your ridiculous comments of no substance, that you are doing "God service". Nothing could be further from the truth as all of you keep on confirming you are intellectually bankrupt by any sort of elementary biblical standard. Realizing that, you resort to "a-hole" comments and the like, which I think I shall report to the moderator.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Stormstopper' date='07 October 2009 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1254938145' post='1980026']
"a-hole" comments and the like, which I think I shall report to the moderator.
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Report [i]this[/i].

[Paddington]

[quote name='Winchester' date='07 October 2009 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1254938467' post='1980031']
Report [i]this[/i].
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You went [i]there[/i].

[Stormstopper]

[quote name='Selah' date='07 October 2009 - 12:34 PM' timestamp='1254936880' post='1979993']
Is it lonely up there on your pedastal, Stormy? Because you are pretty much committing the sin of presumption now.

Didn't I already tell you why we see works as important?

Read the book of James lately?

Yeah.
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Selah, if I had a nickel for all the worthless statements you've made, you know very well I could retire in the Bahamas. Since you cannot provide ONE proof-text from any Reformer, past or present that denies the importance of good works, your pointless reference to James, as if we were unaware of it, is a complete waste of time. You are absolutely UNFAMILIAR with your opponent's view and you are only continuing to make a fool of yourself by posting things you don't understand. So either POST the evidence that you think supports your postion from any Protestant you desire, or BUTTON THAT LIP. Talk about the sin of presumption! You are the very essence of it! All talk and no action.

Edited October 7, 2009 by Stormstopper

[Winchester]

[quote name='Stormstopper' date='07 October 2009 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1254938145' post='1980026']

Oh I know. The Roman Catholic Church said so and who cares that the Bible condemns good works as our passport to heaven in no less than 35 places. So like vultures you just swoop down with all the insults and never-ending foolishness. [/quote]
Apparently does not have a copy of the CCC, just some misinterpreted paragraphs from some other forum.

[quote] Your attitude is that of your forefathers....you'd burn me at the stake in the blink of an eye just as you did them.....MILLIONS of them, [/quote]
Millions.
95+ hasn't done much history larnin'.

Being mentally deficient exempted one from the stake. And being not Catholic, of course.

Edited October 7, 2009 by Winchester

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='07 October 2009 - 05:21 AM' timestamp='1254889287' post='1979667']
Mother Teresa absolutely despised traveling and speaking in public. She did it because her bishops and spiritual directors told her to. It was absolutely clear that she'd rather be at one of her houses tending to the sick and dying.
I would say that yes, her traveling and speaking did much towards making her into a saint. She did not like the fame one bit.

Had her bishops and SDs left her alone, she never would have been in the public spotlight, never have accepted awards, and never have made public speeches. I am absolutely positive of that, and even you would be convinced if you bothered to do your research.
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I wish I could remember which interview it was, but the priest who confirmed me was telling me about an interview with Mother Teresa. The interviewer kept asking her what she promised to all the girls coming to live in the convent and work in Calcutta, and she kept responding "I give them Jesus". I think Bl Teresa of Calcutta for the most part embodied the quote from St Francis of Assisi: "Preach the Gospel at all times; use words when necessary". [url="http://www.servelec.net/mothertheresa.htm"]Here[/url]'s another interview with her, where she discusses that she shares the Gospel by living it out and by loving the people.



And Storm, my prayers are with you and your father.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Stormstopper' date='07 October 2009 - 02:04 PM' timestamp='1254938655' post='1980033']
Selah, if I had a nickel for all the worthless statements you've made, you know very well I could retire in the Bahamas. [/quote]Is that the money they use in the Bahamas?
I can't imagine carrying around a big sack of nickels during retirement.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Stormstopper' date='07 October 2009 - 12:55 PM' timestamp='1254938145' post='1980026']
You must be out of your mind Ni-Ob! I pasted your quote directly from your post and you have the gaul to say "you are pretending I said something". PRETENDING?! You specifically said Mama T's good works were a purgation and I rejected that conclusion. Are you on medication?
And don't waste your time with the Mama T quotes. The Word of God is completely against HER statement and the Catholic belief in general when it comes to the cleansing power of good deeds. You can't support that horrific belief by Scripture if your life depended on it and you know it. WHy then do you believe and risk your eternal soul on it?
Oh I know. The Roman Catholic Church said so and who cares that the Bible condemns good works as our passport to heaven in no less than 35 places. So like vultures you just swoop down with all the insults and never-ending foolishness. Your attitude is that of your forefathers....you'd burn me at the stake in the blink of an eye just as you did them.....MILLIONS of them, whom Jesus predicted so accurately when He said, "the time is coming when they will kill you, THINKING THEY DO GOD SERVICE". This is EXACTLY what happened, as history shows. Before they lit the match they would always preface their filthy deed with, "And this is to the glory of God."
There's no difference today. You think by your ridiculous comments of no substance, that you are doing "God service". Nothing could be further from the truth as all of you keep on confirming you are intellectually bankrupt by any sort of elementary biblical standard. Realizing that, you resort to "a-hole" comments and the like, which I think I shall report to the moderator.
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Once again you've blatantly ignored my assertion, which is that, no, good works aren't what we or Blessed Mother Teresa was talking about. Rather we were talking about sacrifice, suffering, and obedience in accordance with God's will, which is what she demonstrated (to a heroic degree) in her international fame.
I do continue to assert that you are "pretending I said something". You quote me, yes, and then you ignore my central ideas. This is nothing more and nothing less than intentional academic dishonesty. You're no martyr, you're an obstinate pompous fo[i][/i]ol who cannot tolerate or handle logical objections to his beliefs.

Bl. Mother Teresa pray for us all.

[Winchester]

I'm thinking that even if every post NO had ever posted contained 2 useless things, It still would only add up to 3 dollars.

[Stormstopper]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='07 October 2009 - 12:16 PM' timestamp='1254935767' post='1979965']
docu-dumps usually show that the poster doesn't really understand what they are arguing. they can't sum up their stances in a few words or at least in their words... so they docu-dump.
not that storm isn't smart. he's engaging in a long, conventional academic debate. but they're getting hung up on the minutiae that i dont think they or at least storm is really synthesizing and taking it all in as should be done. it's just pencil pushing mostly. the docu-dump phenomenon does exist still despite that admittedly impressive in many senses debate.
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I'm guilty of "pencil-pushing"??? Because I quote your own documents? Spare me. I'll bet you you didn't even know that's what Vatican 2 wrote--as you're obviously spending too much time out in the barn milking cows. Instead of thanking me for opeing your eyes, I get the shaft for telling you the truth. Let's cut to the quick. Show me in Scripture or church antiquity where you can find support for Vatican 2 coming up with this fairy tale that good works may be offered to God for SALVATION. Afterall, they said this "sacred" belief went back to "ancient times". So certainly some early father would have believed it. Prove it.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Winchester' date='07 October 2009 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1254939803' post='1980057']
I'm thinking that even if every post NO had ever posted contained 2 useless things, It still would only add up to 3 dollars.
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I calculated it out. If you include lameboard posts that aren't in my 'official' post count, I have near 10 000 posts, so at two nickels per post you'd have around one grand.

If we assume Selah says way more useless things than me... say... twice as much, that gives you around the same amount of money because of differing post counts.

So go ahead and retire on that, but I think you'd be finding the Bahamas aren't quite as luxurious as you think when you live in a gutter next to the guy who cooks rats into his hotdogs that he sells outside the resort to all the poor guys who work folding towels at the poolside for a dollar an hour.