Sternhauser Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='princessgianna' date='24 September 2009 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1253841981' post='1972440'] And yea let's think on different point of view. Shall we? I am a young unmarried lady. Not excessivly big/ I am more petite. I am walking through the store. Some jerk pulls out a gun and threatens to kill me if I don't cooprate with him. If there are witness All the other law abiding citazens are not armed. They follow the law! Sure you have videotaps but that doesn't do sqaut at the moment. The cops won't be there for another 3 mind. AT BEST! Since you have to publically show a registered firearm at all times. The jerk knows(at least reasonably assume) that no one else has a gun! The following scene I will not describe - let your imagine go wild. All I will say is the end result is I am sexually abused. Now let's discuss this. What happened if I had a firearm hidden and it's all legit. Guess what! I can know protect myself!! At the least wound the bad guy and protect the lives and respect of the innocent. ~ Princessgianna (A princess of God therefore worthy of respect!) [/quote] Absolutely. The national average response time is about 8 minutes. Police traditionally arrive at a crime just in time to mop up the blood. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 whatever-! Point is -I have a chance to defend myself against one who is trying to hurt me. Self defence. It's simple/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='princessgianna' date='24 September 2009 - 10:12 PM' timestamp='1253844775' post='1972459'] whatever-! Point is -I have a chance to defend myself against one who is trying to hurt me. Self defence. It's simple/ [/quote] Of course! One should always look out for the people saying, "It's so much more complex than that." Body counts accrue while they are explaining. If "infinitely simple" is good enough for God, then just plain "simple" is good enough for me. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Secuutus' date='21 September 2009 - 06:19 PM' timestamp='1253571583' post='1970627'] Im a supporter of the second amedment... But I dont believe civilians should be able to own automatic rifles. Im okay with .9 millimeters, and other handguns! [/quote] a .9 millimeter round would be about the the size of an 'o' in this font... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' date='24 September 2009 - 10:27 PM' timestamp='1253845655' post='1972464'] a .9 millimeter round would be about the the size of an 'o' in this font... [/quote] And it would be nearly as powerful as a 9mm. Just kidding! I am a fan of the 9x19. As long as it's not ball ammo. -Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 So what kind of gun should an innocent girl like PG carry around? A semi-auto? Can't be too careful... where would she hide it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='24 September 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1253850047' post='1972484'] So what kind of gun should an innocent girl like PG carry around? A semi-auto? Can't be too careful... where would she hide it? [/quote] The same as an innocent [i]man[/i] should carry: the largest caliber he or she can shoot accurately with the highest convenient capacity, and the one that he or she feels most comfortable with and will carry all the time. ~Sternhauser Edited September 25, 2009 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommas_boy Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='24 September 2009 - 10:41 PM' timestamp='1253846473' post='1972472'] And it would be nearly as powerful as a 9mm. Just kidding! I am a fan of the 9x19. As long as it's not ball ammo. -Sternhauser [/quote] Actually, ever heard of sabot rounds? They allow smaller calibre projectiles to be fired from more conventional weaponry. They are desirable for two reasons: smaller calibre decreases in-flight drag allowing the projectile to maintain its initial muzzle velocity for longer, and the smaller diameter pierces through the target more efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) [quote name='mommas_boy' date='25 September 2009 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1253853445' post='1972494'] Actually, ever heard of sabot rounds? They allow smaller calibre projectiles to be fired from more conventional weaponry. They are desirable for two reasons: smaller calibre decreases in-flight drag allowing the projectile to maintain its initial muzzle velocity for longer, and the smaller diameter pierces through the target more efficiently. [/quote] Sure. They make sabots so you can handload your own 5.56 bullets into a .30 cal. Even the 7.62x25 Tokarev round. There's something to be said for driving a 55 grain pill at 2000 FPS from a handgun. It does not stay too stable/accurate in the handgun configuration, unfortunately. It works better in the larger smoothbores designed for sabots. Depending on the application, bigger, slower and heavier is usually the way to go. You don't want to aim for armor anyway. ~Sternhauser Edited September 25, 2009 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' date='24 September 2009 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1253845655' post='1972464'] a .9 millimeter round would be about the the size of an 'o' in this font... [/quote] .9 of a millimeter is closer to the space between in between a a pair of apostrophes. '' Silly Americans and your imperial system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='24 September 2009 - 11:40 PM' timestamp='1253850047' post='1972484'] So what kind of gun should an innocent girl like PG carry around? A semi-auto? Can't be too careful... where would she hide it? [/quote] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Japanese_Type_90_Tank_-_2.jpg/800px-Japanese_Type_90_Tank_-_2.jpg[/img] Hey, it's Japanese, PG should appreciate that...don't think she will be able to hide it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Maximilianus' date='25 September 2009 - 12:31 AM' timestamp='1253856662' post='1972509'] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Japanese_Type_90_Tank_-_2.jpg/800px-Japanese_Type_90_Tank_-_2.jpg[/img] Hey, it's Japanese, PG should appreciate that...don't think she will be able to hide it though. [/quote] I thought they weren't allowed a military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 September 2009 - 01:40 AM' timestamp='1253857250' post='1972515'] I thought they weren't allowed a military. [/quote] They have the Self-Defence Force made up of a maritime, ground and air force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='24 September 2009 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1253835405' post='1972416'] After all that, your first reaction was to [url="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homogenous"]wrongly[/url] criticize the spelling of a word? Really? ~Sternhauser [/quote]Read underneath the definition "Alteration of homogeneous". Homogeneous is the correct spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 [quote name='dauntingknight' date='24 September 2009 - 08:13 PM' timestamp='1253837610' post='1972422'] The goverment is there to keep order and we are here to keep the goverment from abusing that power. [/quote]A gun won't help you stop them abusing that power...What're you going to do, shoot some politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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