Paladin D Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hey Bruce, I think I misunderstood you. [quote name='"Bruce"']Remember, 2/3rds of Americans are NOT Catholic, and do NOT agree with most of this stuff,[/quote] Do you mean that Catholics do not agree with most of the stuff, or non-Catholics? If it's the latter, I apologize for misunderstanding. But the thing still stands, there are many Catholics who [b]dabble[/b] in their faith, it happens with every single religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote]None. None whatsoever. It would only get people with highlighers buried in that book, and that can't be encouraged, I got that clearly, so we focus on the intended passages, and context is to be given only by the Priest. Got it. [/quote] What point does it serve in a Protestant Service. At best, the people open up to the passage the preacher tells them to and underline it. Wow, big difference. It's still focus on intended passages in the context given by the preacher. Last night I went to an inter-denominational Bible Study. The guy( a Protestant preacher) read a total of 1 verse and he talked for 30 minutes. Now, he did a good job, but don't act like all Protestant services are full of verses and Catholics are devoid of any Bible reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote]But the thing still stands, there are many Catholics who dabble in their faith, it happens with every single religion. [/quote] Agreed. One thing, most on this site, and other online sites are seeking, that is not a bad thing, we will never agree, but if we have one thing we do agree on, as Christians, not denominationalists, is that Jesus died for us, and we can never understand the full reality of what He did. We just try to follow His commands, and that is where WE all interject interpretations, everyone trying so hard to be right. What IS right, is we won't ever 'get it' for we are not Jesus, and like His apostles, will fight with each other, here on earth, to see who is the "greatest" I don't want to do that any longer, I will settle for the role that I've been given, and outside of online, with the unsaved, is where I really should be, not here, bickering. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 9 2004, 01:20 PM'] What IS right, is we won't ever 'get it' for we are not Jesus, and like His apostles, will fight with each other, here on earth, to see who is the "greatest" I don't want to do that any longer, I will settle for the role that I've been given, and outside of online, with the unsaved, is where I really should be, not here, bickering. Sorry. [/quote] amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 9 2004, 01:20 PM'] Agreed. One thing, most on this site, and other online sites are seeking, that is not a bad thing, we will never agree, but if we have one thing we do agree on, as Christians, not denominationalists, is that Jesus died for us, and we can never understand the full reality of what He did. We just try to follow His commands, and that is where WE all interject interpretations, everyone trying so hard to be right. What IS right, is we won't ever 'get it' for we are not Jesus, and like His apostles, will fight with each other, here on earth, to see who is the "greatest" I don't want to do that any longer, I will settle for the role that I've been given, and outside of online, with the unsaved, is where I really should be, not here, bickering. Sorry.[/quote] [quote]What IS right, is we won't ever 'get it' for we are not Jesus,[/quote] We do get it, it's The True Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist!!! We become one with Him and unlike the food we eat which our bodies changes into us, This Heavenly Food Changes Us Into Him! [quote]and like His apostles, will fight with each other, here on earth, to see who is the "greatest"[/quote] ??? I'm the least, I don't want to be the greatest! [quote]is that Jesus died for us, and we can never understand the full reality of what He did.[/quote] Yes we can, In His True Presence in The Holy Eucharist. Everything you want, need and desire is in The Holy Eucharist, for it is Christ Himself!! God Bless Jason Edited April 9, 2004 by Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [b]Book written by: St. Peter Julian Eymard[/b] "Without Communion, one is constantly in the heart of the battle. One knows only the difficulties in the acquisition of virtue, not the sweetness of it's practice-- the joy of working, not simply for oneself and moved soley by the hope of reward, but purely for the glory of God, from love of Him, from affection, like little children. He who receives Communion finds it easy to understand that having received much, he must give a great deal in return. That is piety---intelligent, filial, and loving piety. Besides, even in the severest trials, Communion makes a soul happy, filling it with tender and loving joy. The height of perfection is to remain united with God in the midst of the most interior temptations, and it is when you are most tempted that God most loves you. Yet in order that these storms may not overwhelm you, learn to return frequently to the Divine Fountainhead to renew your strength and to purify yourself more and more in that torrent of grace and love. Receive Communion therefore! Eat the Bread of Life if you wish to live well, if you wish to obtain sufficient strength for the Christian combat, if you wish to possess happiness even in the thick of misfortune. The Holy Eucharist is the Bread of the weak and of the strong. To the weak, clearly, it is necessary; but to the strong likewise, since they bear their treasure in fragile vessels and are threatened on every hand by desperate enemies. Let us, then, take care that we guard, a sure escort, fortifying food for our journey; this will Jesus be, our Bread of Life." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 Jason, talking with you is like debating bumper stickers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [b]Book written by: St. Peter Julian Eymard[/b] "Baptism, which bestows life, Confirmation, which increases it, Penance, which restores it --- none of these is enough; these Sacraments are only preparation for the Eucharist, which is their fruition and their crown. "Jesus said, 'Follow me' but that is difficult; it takes effort and demands the practice of the Christian virtues. We must remember that he alone who abides in Our Lord will bear much fruit. And how shall we abide in Him if not by eating His Flesh and drinking His Blood? "Possessing Jesus within us, we are two persons, and the burden so shared, is light. Therefore did St. Paul say, 'I can do all things in Him who strengtheneth me.' And He who so strenghened him is the same who lives in us --- Christ Jesus. "Holy Communion not only gives to the Sacramental Jesus the opportunity to satisfy His love; it gives Him a new life that He will consecrate to the glory of His Father. In His state of glory, He can no longer honor the Father with a love free and meritorious. But in Communion, He will enter into man, associate with him, and unite with him. In return, by this wonderful union, the Christian will give, living and sentient faculties, to the glorified Jesus; he will give Him the liberty that constitutes the merit of virtue. Thus, through Communion, the Christian will be transformed into Jesus Himself, and Jesus will live again in him. "Something divine will then come to pass in the one who communicates; man will labor, and Jesus will give the grace of labor; man will keep the merit, but Jesus will be the glory. Jesus will be able to say to His Father:'I love Thee, I adore Thee, and I still suffer, living anew in my members.' "This is what gives Communion its highest power: it is a second and perpetual incarnation of Jesus Christ. Between Jesus Christ and man, it forms a union of life and love. In a word, it is a second life for Jesus Christ." God Bless Jason [quote]Jason, talking with you is like debating bumper stickers....[/quote] hehe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 9 2004, 01:01 PM'] Jason, talking with you is like debating bumper stickers.... [/quote] I can't argue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 9 2004, 02:52 PM'] I can't argue that. [/quote] You know Christ got alot of trouble from other people when He gave witness to The Truth, I guess I must be doing something similar. hmmm.... I recall wait it's coming.... .... .... "If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love it's own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you." Oh ya man almost forgot that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote]If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love it's own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you." [/quote] yeah, that one made sense in light of this "non" discussion. I feel sorry for your wife or girlfriend, having a conversation with you is darned near impossible. Vote for THE GUY MY PARTY IS RUNNING, nevermind what he stands for. Might is right! My country, right or wrong! Stand up for the Red, White and Blue! Onward Christian Soldiers! Remember the Alamo! Never say Die! any other non thinking slogans we can add to this list? Hey, I hear this job is now vacant, you seem to have the zeal to fill it dear Jason... [quote]Torquemada, Tomás de  (tmäs´ d tôrkmä´thä) (KEY) , 1420–98, Spanish churchman and inquisitor. A Dominican, he became confessor to Ferdinand II and Isabella I and in 1483 was appointed inquisitor general of Castile and Aragón, charged with the centralization of the Spanish Inquisition. He was largely instrumental in bringing about the expulsion of the Jews in 1492. His great authority was contested by colleagues and was diminished in some measure by the pope, but he remained preeminent until his death. Torquemada owes his reputation for to the harsh rules of procedure that he devised for the Inquisition and to the rigor with which he had them enforced. [/quote] :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter evey kind of evil against you [falsely] because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Should I be dancing? [quote]yeah, that one made sense in light of this "non" discussion. I feel sorry for your wife or girlfriend, having a conversation with you is darned near impossible. Vote for THE GUY MY PARTY IS RUNNING, nevermind what he stands for. Might is right! My country, right or wrong! Stand up for the Red, White and Blue! Onward Christian Soldiers! Remember the Alamo! Never say Die! any other non thinking slogans we can add to this list? Hey, I hear this job is now vacant, you seem to have the zeal to fill it dear Jason... QUOTE Torquemada, Tomás de  (tmäs´ d tôrkmä´thä) (KEY) , 1420–98, Spanish churchman and inquisitor. A Dominican, he became confessor to Ferdinand II and Isabella I and in 1483 was appointed inquisitor general of Castile and Aragón, charged with the centralization of the Spanish Inquisition. He was largely instrumental in bringing about the expulsion of the Jews in 1492. His great authority was contested by colleagues and was diminished in some measure by the pope, but he remained preeminent until his death. Torquemada owes his reputation for to the harsh rules of procedure that he devised for the Inquisition and to the rigor with which he had them enforced. [/quote] Maybe I should be! God Bless You Bruce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roosters lil' dove Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I laughed...I cried..... Geesh! You guys crack me up!!!! This is certainly an interesting thread. Ive never been one to argue 'catholic proper' (dads saying) very well. I may ask questions on the same topic 50 different ways, just so I can say that hopefully the subject was exhausted. Believe me, I have my share of questions pertaining to catholicism, and I plan on giving every scholar and priest on this site a real good workout! My future goal is to be able to lift my sword and just like you guys. But it'll probably be more like Oh, be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Welcome roosterslil dove Jason, its cause of all the document dumping you do that drives him nuts. Its drives most people nuts. You should challenge yourself to go a week without document dumping and just sharing your own thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 9 2004, 04:09 PM'] Welcome roosterslil dove Jason, its cause of all the document dumping you do that drives him nuts. Its drives most people nuts. You should challenge yourself to go a week without document dumping and just sharing your own thoughts. [/quote] Doc dump huh? Well I call it teachings of the Church. Am I to deny the teachings of the Church. I tell you I will not. Your either 100% or not,period there is no in between. Remember in Rev. what the Lord says He will do with those who are lukewarm! Spew them out of His mouth. No doc dump huh? lol, whatever he comes over here pointing fingures, I'll use whatever it takes to defend the Catholic Church. If he doesn't like it then don't accuse the Catholic Church of false things. I don't live a little as he says, I don't care too. I'm obedient to the Catholic Church. God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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