Calling All Protestants

[Jake Huether]

[quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 8 2004, 03:11 PM'] Ingrid H. Shafer, Ph.D., Professor of Philosophy & Religion
Mary Jo Ragan Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies
University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma, Chickasha, OK 73018
Tel: 405.224.3140 ext. 1312 (o) 405.224.3988 (h) FAX: 405.224.3044 (h)
e-mail: ihs@ionet.net web: [url="http://www.usao.edu/~facshaferi/"]http://www.usao.edu/~facshaferi/[/url] [url="http://ecumene.org/"]http://ecumene.org/[/url]
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29 January 2001

Dr. John E. Murray, Jr., President
Duquesne University
600 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15282

Dear President Murray: [of Duquesne University]

I am writing you as the designated spokesperson for the National Board of the Association for the Rights of Catholics in the Church.

We are deeply concerned about the reports that a tenured member of the Duquesne theology department, Dr. Moni McIntyre, has been relieved of her teaching duties [b]and her books have been removed from the departmental display case [/b]because she has joined the Episcopal church and been ordained to the Episcopal priesthood. We are appalled not only because Dr. McIntyre's contractual rights have been violated [b]but because her students are being deprived of their rights to a balanced education. In addition, Catholic theology itself is made to appear in need of protection from those who might hold opinions that are not officially sanctioned. Theology taught in an atmosphere of repression and fear is not true theology. It is indoctrination and the very antithesis of an academically legitimate pursuit of learning. [/b]

If Dr. McIntyre were the only theologian in the department, one might perhaps try to make the case for her being a practicing Catholic. However, there are 13 members of the theology department at Duquesne and students have many opportunities to observe a healthy clash of interpretations and perspectives. In addition, absolutely nothing has changed since the time she was granted tenure in regard to Professor McIntyre, the scholar and teacher.


As for theological differences between Episcopalians and Catholics, let us keep in mind that the most [b]acclaimed commentary on the Lectionary, a book used by countless priests throughout the English- speaking world as they prepare their homilies, was written by the Rev. Dr. Reginald Fuller, born in England, an Anglican priest, Professor Emeritus at Virginia Theological Seminary, [/b]and for many years a member of the Catholic Bishops' subcommittee on the Lectionary. Dismissing a faculty member from a Catholic university because she is now an Episcopalian and a priest has the potential of undermining decades of ecumenical progress.

In the university context, even at private universities in the Catholic tradition, Catholic theology is an academic field, and as such can be taught by anyone who has the academic qualifications to do so. To expect professors of Catholic theology necessarily to be practicing Catholics makes no more sense than to demand that only Marxists will be allowed to teach about Marxism or Buddhists to teach about Buddhism. University teaching involves critical thinking; it involves teaching about a topic from multiple perspectives. Unless the distinction is made between evangelization and academic presentation, departments of theology will cease being legitimate academic departments, and that would truly be a tragedy.

Very truly yours,



Ingrid Shafer, Ph.D., Vice President ARCC
[url="http://arcc-catholic-rights.org/"]http://arcc-catholic-rights.org/[/url] and [url="http://astro.temple.edu/~arcc/"]http://astro.temple.edu/~arcc/[/url] [/quote]
What's your point, Bruce.?

I don't get it. I don't see how this weakens my purposal that convers FROM Rome don't know the real Teachings of the Catholic Church.

Again, intelligence has nothing to do with it.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Jake Huether' date='Apr 8 2004, 05:25 PM']What's your point, Bruce.?

I don't get it.  I don't see how this weakens my purposal that convers FROM Rome don't know the real Teachings of the Catholic Church. 

Again, intelligence has nothing to do with it.[/quote]
I don't think he has a point. It's getting tiresome explaining things 50 times, than him giving some junk link to bash the Catholic's sight.

You seem smart Bruce, I wouldn't question to much the Phariess and Our Lord did not mix that well because of there constant questioning.

Time to accept or reject the Truth.

(saying with charity)

God Bless
Jason

[Brother Adam]

What seems increadibly obvious to you, may not seem obvious at all for others, but very confusing. Please try to remember that.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 8 2004, 06:37 PM'] What seems increadibly obvious to you, may not seem obvious at all for others, but very confusing. Please try to remember that. [/quote]
i agree bro. but Bruce used to be Catholic he knows whats up. Alot of his posts are pointing the finger.

My statement was made in this particular situation.

God Bless
Jason

[HS_Dad]

[quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 4 2004, 12:20 PM'][url="http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9711/carlin.html"]http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9711/carlin.html[/url][/quote]

Great article.... I love First Things and had already read this...
Thanks Bruce for the link.... I have been a strong Evangelical my
whole life and I am becoming Catholic this Easter Vigil.

This article is "right on" as far as the sociology goes. But, I think it
also speaks to important theological truths... Catholicism's strength
is its Catholicity (globalness)... The body of Christ "subsists in" the
Catholic Church, it is not identical to the Catholic Church. But contained
within this idea is that the Catholic Church is "more" than just another
expression of Christianity... It is the unique church established by
Christ. Read Ut Unum Sint for a heartfelt discussion by the Pope of
the tensions caused by these two realities.....

I wish more Catholics could see that Christ is truly present in powerful
ways outside the Catholic Church as well as within.... I also wish more Protestants
could see Christ in his Church.... Come on everybody, read John 17!!
These divisions all cause our opponent the greatest of amusement!!!
Let's not give him any fun. Ut Unum Sint!!!

[Theoketos]

UNUM SINT!!!!!!!!!

[the lumberjack]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 8 2004, 05:37 PM'] What seems increadibly obvious to you, may not seem obvious at all for others, but very confusing. Please try to remember that. [/quote]
on the contrary, it couldn't be clearer...