BG45 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/6161742/Contraception-cheapest-way-to-combat-climate-change.html [quote]Every £4 spent on family planning over the next four decades would reduce global CO2 emissions by more than a ton, whereas a minimum of £19 would have to be spent on low-carbon technologies to achieve the same result, the research says. The report, Fewer Emitter, Lower Emissions, Less Cost, concludes that family planning should be seen as one of the primary methods of emissions reduction. The UN estimates that 40 per cent of all pregnancies worldwide are unintended.[/quote] More in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Or here's an idea - how about people realising that you don't need lots of things and can grow your own veg, and that each kid doesn't need a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I saw that article and found it funny because a few days earlier, Catholic Exchange posted an article about "green sex," which states contraception is not the green or natural way. [quote]Contraception is bad for the environment. Need proof? Try calculating the carbon footprint produced by the laboratory production, packaging, marketing, shipping, stocking and consumption of Ortho-Tryclyclin in the United States alone, and you’ve got a number that rivals the output of Air Force One on Earth Day. But seriously… has anyone stopped to consider the very real ramifications of literally millions of couples eschewing sex “au natural” in favor of a more controlled and convenient conjugal collaboration? No? Well, I suppose nobody asked questions about pumping bovine growth hormones into our dairy cows until our nine year olds began menstruating, either, but I digress. The point is this: for a society so infatuated with the practice of lessening consumer tendencies, it’s awfully fishy that no body’s pointed a finger at Merck or Wyeth or one of Big Pharm’s other big players, asking the tough questions about energy output and the environmental ramifications of pumping billions of gallons of estrogen-enhanced waste through our waterways. [url="http://tob.catholicexchange.com/2009/08/07/785/#hide"]Read more.[/url] [/quote] I think she raises a good point. What is the environmental impact of the manufacturing and disposal of contraceptions and contraceptive drugs? Enviromentalists extremists won't ask those kinds of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I remember seeing a report once about how much waste a woman produces for land fills in a life time of periods. It was a scary amount. Getting pregnant cuts down on that, but then I guess that adds to the disposable diaper issue instead. We are just so bad for the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' date='10 September 2009 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1252599002' post='1964442'] I saw that article and found it funny because a few days earlier, Catholic Exchange posted an article about "green sex," which states contraception is not the green or natural way. I think she raises a good point. What is the environmental impact of the manufacturing and disposal of contraceptions and contraceptive drugs? Enviromentalists extremists won't ask those kinds of questions. [/quote] Interesting article. You're right that she raises some good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 September 2009 - 09:22 AM' timestamp='1252599728' post='1964447'] I remember seeing a report once about how much waste a woman produces for land fills in a life time of periods. It was a scary amount. Getting pregnant cuts down on that, but then I guess that adds to the disposable diaper issue instead. We are just so bad for the planet. [/quote] yeah geeze! no more women's! Uhh, wait... no... I LIKE WOMEN!!! keep them around. plz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I have a crazy alternative suggestion. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='kamiller42' date='10 September 2009 - 05:10 PM' timestamp='1252599002' post='1964442'] I think she raises a good point. What is the environmental impact of the manufacturing and disposal of contraceptions and contraceptive drugs? Enviromentalists extremists won't ask those kinds of questions. [/quote] I agree. [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 September 2009 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1252599728' post='1964447'] I remember seeing a report once about how much waste a woman produces for land fills in a life time of periods. It was a scary amount. Getting pregnant cuts down on that, but then I guess that adds to the disposable diaper issue instead. We are just so bad for the planet. [/quote] All the more reason to use cloth diapers and reusable feminine products (there are various options for that one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 So lowering carbon emissions by a ton would cost £19 through new technologies, yet only £4 with family planning. So, as long as liberty is worth less than the £15 price difference, some kind of national family planning scheme makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Manufacturing contraceptives (e.g., pills, condoms, IUDs, etc.) is hardly environmentally safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It has been found that humans use up resources......therefore stop making people. What about the nations that are providing financial incentives to their people to have a new generation to take care of the aging one? Will they comply? Why not just kill of the non-productive people? Get rid of all those who drain resources.......now I will be the person who decides that and I assure you I will use this power fairly. This really opens a whole can of worms if you want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhetoricfemme Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='10 September 2009 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1252599728' post='1964447'] I remember seeing a report once about how much waste a woman produces for land fills in a life time of periods. It was a scary amount. Getting pregnant cuts down on that, but then I guess that adds to the disposable diaper issue instead. We are just so bad for the planet. [/quote] Cloth diapers should be mandated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 [quote name='rhetoricfemme' date='10 September 2009 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1252607978' post='1964513'] Cloth diapers should be mandated! [/quote] My midwife got so excited when I told her I was using cloth diapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 This really is a ridiculous position. It operates apparently in complete ignorance that human beings actually consume resources, just by living. We'd save billions of dollars if there were less people, and guess what, there would be no environmental concerns if there were no people. It's not a relevant point, in my opinion. You can't just decide that the world population is not allowed to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Ugh. As if soaking the ground with synthetic hormones and non-biodegradable latex is a better solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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