aalpha1989 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 House said something once kinda to this effect; It's slightly less horrible to live in misery than to die in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 [quote name='aalpha1989' date='26 August 2009 - 11:14 PM' timestamp='1251342863' post='1956804'] House said something once kinda to this effect; It's slightly less horrible to live in misery than to die in it. [/quote] Wait, did you type that correctly? I haven't seen the episode (granted I don't watch House MD religiously as some do) but that coming from House just doesn't sound right. From what I've seen of his character on the show, he would seem to espouse the belief that to live in misery would be slightly [i]worse[/i] than to die in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 [quote name='iheartjp2' date='27 August 2009 - 02:26 PM' timestamp='1251397611' post='1956934'] Wait, did you type that correctly? I haven't seen the episode (granted I don't watch House MD religiously as some do) but that coming from House just doesn't sound right. From what I've seen of his character on the show, he would seem to espouse the belief that to live in misery would be slightly [i]worse[/i] than to die in it. [/quote] nope, he definitely said it "smells of elderberries slightly less to live in misery than to die in it". he was talking about suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I voted to live. Even after going to confession, making amends, repenting a million times, I will still regret and have disdain for the terrible things that I have done. So when I die, I will no longer have those feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 [quote name='aalpha1989' date='27 August 2009 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1251400420' post='1956945'] nope, he definitely said it "smells of elderberries slightly less to live in misery than to die in it". he was talking about suicide. [/quote] Hm, assuming that elderberries smell good, I'd come to the conclusion that he meant that it would be slightly worse to live in misery than to die in it, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 House often takes you by surprise with what he says, but I believe I do remember him saying that it's worse to die. It's consistent with his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Wait, are elderberries those black ones that grow virtually everywhere and stink really bad? Yeah, if they're those, they're weeds and I take back what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Wait, are elderberries those black ones that grow virtually everywhere and stink really bad? Yeah, if they're those, they're weeds and I take back what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Live. You have no real way of knowing what will happen when you die, no matter how certain you are. When you live with feelings of regret, you know it's going to be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='28 August 2009 - 06:52 PM' timestamp='1251507155' post='1957543'] Live. You have no real way of knowing what will happen when you die, no matter how certain you are. When you live with feelings of regret, you know it's going to be bad. [/quote] Sure, an atheist would say that. That's assuming there's no consciousness after death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='29 August 2009 - 02:44 AM' timestamp='1251528284' post='1957671'] Sure, an atheist would say that. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif[/img] That's assuming there's no consciousness after death. [/quote] So do I...in a different way. When you die you don't carry the guilt that one might carry even if they repented and made amends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 [quote name='picchick' date='03 September 2009 - 12:28 AM' timestamp='1251959309' post='1960263'] So do I...in a different way. When you die you don't carry the guilt that one might carry even if they repented and made amends. [/quote] I had earlier been looking at this question in only one way, but if you read through all my posts I had a couple different ideas too. #1: what about the people that are going to feel somewhat responsible for your dumb choice? Say, like in the example above, you jumped off a diving board knowing you couldn't handle it, because your friends convinced you? They're going to carry that guilt if you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='04 September 2009 - 02:18 AM' timestamp='1252045097' post='1960675'] I had earlier been looking at this question in only one way, but if you read through all my posts I had a couple different ideas too. #1: what about the people that are going to feel somewhat responsible for your dumb choice? Say, like in the example above, you jumped off a diving board knowing you couldn't handle it, because your friends convinced you? They're going to carry that guilt if you die. [/quote] Well, wouldn't they also carry the guilt if you were to live with say, a spinal cord injury? (This happened to someone that I know of. Albeit he was intoxicated while he did this, it isn't really the point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I'm sure they would, but somewhat less than if he had died. Just that dying would make it that much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='04 September 2009 - 02:18 AM' timestamp='1252045097' post='1960675'] I had earlier been looking at this question in only one way, but if you read through all my posts I had a couple different ideas too. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] #1: what about the people that are going to feel somewhat responsible for your dumb choice? Say, like in the example above, you jumped off a diving board knowing you couldn't handle it, because your friends convinced you? They're going to carry that guilt if you die. [/quote] I read through the whole thread before. I was just addressing your one post. I didn't see the question this way. I considered it more personal but I could see what you are saying. I guess it would then depend on the situation. It was more of a horrible thing you did, I thought, rather than something dumb that people made you do. I kinda looked at the question like, I committed a horrible irreversible mortal sin, like murdering someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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