Feminizing The Mass

[InHisLove726]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1941631' date='Aug 6 2009, 12:20 AM']Makes more room for justification of alternative lifestyles. [/quote]

Unfortunately....

[Sr Marianne]

[quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1941201' date='Aug 5 2009, 06:49 PM']Gar! I hate it when gender-neutral language is used. In any context, really. I also got irritated when I would receive weekly updates from babycentre when I was pregnant, and it would use the feminine as the default pronoun.[/quote]

But women are the only pregnant ones....Hence 'she'??

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Sr Marianne' post='1941785' date='Aug 6 2009, 09:54 AM']But women are the only pregnant ones....Hence 'she'??[/quote]
I mean they referred to the baby as "she" by default. I didn't know what sex my son was when I was pregnant. The proper thing, then, would be to use the masculine, since that is the default, but many times, in the interest of gender equality, people are changing the default to the feminine.

[Andrea348]

I can TOTALLY relate. One of my best friends thinks that way. It is so distracting to stand next to her at Mass because she changes all the He's to God and even worse, she has decided that the Holy Spirit is a female, so whenever the He is in reference to the Holy Spirit, she says she.

[Winchester]

[quote name='MissyP89' post='1941561' date='Aug 5 2009, 11:06 PM']It's worth noting that two of the three persons of the Blessed Trinity are, in fact, lacking in any sort of genitalia. However, I agree with the majority here. Jesus was a man. The Bible uses masculine language, and we are a Faith based in the Bible. 2+2=4.[/quote]
Jesus still is a man, and His body is His.

[iheartjp2]

What puzzles me is what people in foreign countries do to deal with this. In languages that have grammatical gender, there are certain words that are always masculine or always feminine. Guess that leaves little wiggle room to make things gender neutral.

[Piccoli Fiori JMJ]

[quote name='tinytherese' post='1941571' date='Aug 5 2009, 09:13 PM']If you think about it, it wouldn't make sense to call the first member of the Holy Trinity feminine. Jesus has a mother already and her name is Mary.[/quote]
Even the Holy Spirit can be considered masculine because Mary is called the spouse of the Holy Spirit.

I think people need to stop seeing the different genders/sexes as opposites and rather as counterparts. They make sense together and not apart...

[Lil Red]

[quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1941490' date='Aug 5 2009, 08:06 PM']Why? [/quote]
+J.M.J.+
his whole "i loudly proclaimed used the masculine" - that kind of attitude turns me off, no matter how 'right' someone may be.

[VeniteAdoremus]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1941908' date='Aug 6 2009, 06:29 PM']+J.M.J.+
his whole "i loudly proclaimed used the masculine" - that kind of attitude turns me off, no matter how 'right' someone may be.[/quote]

I agree. Fr. Z also asked not to wear "Say the Black, Do the Red" buttons during Mass, as it's not a place to protest, even for a good cause.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1941917' date='Aug 6 2009, 09:38 AM']I agree. Fr. Z also asked not to wear "Say the Black, Do the Red" buttons during Mass, as it's not a place to protest, even for a good cause.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
exactly.

although, i would love to wear those buttons around work

[eagle_eye222001]

Fair enough. Better thing might have been to not sing....

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[Norseman82]

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1941213' date='Aug 5 2009, 01:24 PM']I get annoyed when I hear people at Mass say, "Blessed is the [b]one[/b] who comes in the name of the Lord.." or "It is right to give [b]God[/b] thanks and praise" or "for the good of [b]the[/b] Church.."

All replacing the masculine pronouns.

Seriously, people?[/quote]

Or in the Gloria: And peace to God's people on earth".

Edited August 7, 2009 by Norseman82

[Norseman82]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1941908' date='Aug 6 2009, 11:29 AM']+J.M.J.+
his whole "i loudly proclaimed used the masculine" - that kind of attitude turns me off, no matter how 'right' someone may be.[/quote]

I don't care, I'm not shy about it (maybe it's a masculine/assertive thing). In fact, once at a neighboring a young lady came up to me and said "I don't like when they do that either".





I should have asked her for her phone number.....

[Nihil Obstat]

Worst example I've heard:

"Through Jesus, with Jesus, in Jesus, in the unity of the Holy Spirit......"
Doesn't flow at all, plus it's wrong.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Norseman82' post='1942488' date='Aug 7 2009, 12:26 AM']Or in the Gloria: And peace to God's people on earth".[/quote]
I think ye olde translation was "and peace to men of goodwill", no? Or am I thinking of a scriptural passage...

I could break out the Latin, but I can't find my link to the OF in Latin, nor the webpage that was posted a while ago that compares the OF with the EF...