dairygirl4u2c Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) so what if heaven were filled with everyone being servants, and nothing considered sinful were allowed. but hell were filled with no servants, and indulgences to your hearts content allowed? basically, kinda like what if hell is the place ya got the ten virgins etc, as muslims like to think their heaven is like. would you resent having acted so good to get to heaven? my guess is you wouldn't get to heaven if you had that motto, even if you led a great exterior life. but you see the point-- if ya were allowed, etc, it'd be a tragedy of great proportions. i'd guess you'd have to be let into hell, if that's what ya wanted. i remember all the folks here talking about how they wanted to sin etc, if there was no God. as if God's commands aren't fulfilling enough. are we waiting to be allowed to sin in heaven, as it seems muslims think? are they not sins that we're thinking of, necessarily? eating a lot, normally 'too much' dubbed, a bad thing? what would be your thoughts, if presented with that scenario in the afterlife? thoughts? Edited July 30, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) i guess a wise type answer would be, that God would grant us the grace to not desire sin etc. anyone could theoretically assent to that-- if it's the 'right' thing to do, and you're not drawn to it anymore--- why not? it's in a way, an easy answer. what if we didn't have that grace, per se? you just had to endure it, so to speak. the sacrifice that love requires etc. plus, don't ya think you're resenting it now? 'i'm not longer going to desire eating too much?? but that's my favorite sin" etc. doesm't that say something about your situation now? or that so many want to sin, and would if God didn't exist-- doesn't that say something? isn't it just techincalities if their hearts are elsewhere? i guess they want to sin, but know better. that they would if they could though, is a tough to row to ho. but ultimately i guess, kinda like the distinction, between perfect and imperfect contrition- those who think this, who are God's children, know better even if they hearts are torn and rebeleous. Edited July 30, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 [quote]basically, kinda like what if hell is the place ya got the ten virgins etc, as muslims like to think their heaven is like.[/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1935730' date='Jul 30 2009, 04:33 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url][/quote] OSAMA!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1935730' date='Jul 30 2009, 03:33 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I can't imagine wanting to sin once we are in Jesus' presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 sympathy for the devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Sorry Dairygirl, but this thread is crazy, even by your standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11K_gK3LKw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11K_gK3LKw[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) In Valhalla there is much mead and much fighting! Edited July 31, 2009 by Varg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Sin is sin because God says so (in a certain manner of putting it). Twain argued there would be no humor in Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I'm thinking that Sto-vo-kor might be a cool place to hang out in. There'd be singing and drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1936575' date='Jul 31 2009, 10:38 AM']Sin is sin because God says so (in a certain manner of putting it). Twain argued there would be no humor in Heaven.[/quote]Here's something I've benn wondering: if god made everything, why did he bother making things that are sinful and then ban people from doing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936619' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:27 PM']Here's something I've benn wondering: if god made everything, why did he bother making things that are sinful and then ban people from doing them?[/quote] Free will permits one to pursue the Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 But if god wants us to have COMPLETE free will then why did he give us emotions such as guilt or a consience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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