cmotherofpirl Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Philippians 4 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. No where in this verse does it say pay attention only to what I write down. Also ask them where in scripture it say to take one verse to decide an issue, instead of taking scripture as a whole. If they consider this good practice that they cannot deny the literal interpretation of the gospel of John, on the eating and drinking of Christ's body and blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 The more I read, the more I fall in love with the Church, yet the more the fear of being wrong grows in me. The teachings and the traditions of the Church are beautiful, and seem to be so true, so full, yet so many others that love Jesus tell me that the Church is a pagan cult and satan will parade as an angel of light and his doings will look beautiful and right. So yep, I'm scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 CS Lewis even after his conversion said sometimes the whole thing seems like a bunch of hogwash, other times it all made perfect sense. I have had both experiences. In those times, I fall back on the fact that God is emeth = faithful and reliable. I remind myself I have seen his miracles first-hand, and I will stand fast in this knowledge, even when my emotions or an event tell me different. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. So if he said Peter was the rock in the past, and the gates of hell will not prevail - then they didn't and they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovechrist Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 shouldn't this be in an apologetics area instead? just curious.. lol ur doing a good job though, keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic_4_Life Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 31 2004, 09:26 PM'] The more I read, the more I fall in love with the Church, yet the more the fear of being wrong grows in me. The teachings and the traditions of the Church are beautiful, and seem to be so true, so full, yet so many others that love Jesus tell me that the Church is a pagan cult and satan will parade as an angel of light and his doings will look beautiful and right. So yep, I'm scared. [/quote] Understandable. As one who has grown up in the Church in Utah, an area dominated by Mormons, I know what it's like to have people tell you what is wrong with the Catholic Church. But when I looked into my heart and prayed about it, I realized that I was exactly where I needed to be. So I followed my heart. The fears are still there, and probably always will be to some extent...but I can't hear them as much anymore because I am able to receive the Eucharist. That in itself is enough for me to know I am home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic_4_Life Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Someone new posted...haven't seen a reply to him. Did the Adams' give up trying to get an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 The Janke's are very busy people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic_4_Life Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 1 2004, 03:21 PM'] The Janke's are very busy people. [/quote] Whew...I almost said "The Adams Family" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I think it would be interesting to supplement your question with II Peter i.20. (2 Peter 1:20 in modern/protestant notation). The verse reads as follows: "Understanding this first: That no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." It would be interesting what he says to this verse. While it is more a matter of personal interpretation than Sola Scriptura, it seems that the two issues are inseparable. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 [quote]Oral teaching of the GREATEST apostle was NOT valid unless it agreed with written revelation.[/quote] That's interesting, because around half of the Apostles, and some desciples, "teachings" later became Scripture. Which would mean that it was VALID. [quote]The Catholic Church most certainly does set itself above Scripture. They teach a false doctrine. They contradict Scripture. That is what the reformation was all about. [/quote] Wow! Someone needs to study a little. The reformation was about the selling of indulgences. Indeed this was a very illicit PRACTICE. But you'd be hard pressed to find a Church document allowing it. This sinful practice wasn't taught by the Church, and actually fizzled out on it's own. The Church has never hidden the fact that her inhabitants are sinners. Her Doctrine and Dogman, Her Teachings, are spottless though. [quote]Their claim is far different from the protestant claim. The Scriptures back up the Protestant claim. [/quote] Right, this we know. It backs up all x-thousand interpritations, which conflict and contradict eachother. So, where does that leave us.... [quote]We cannot rewrite history and theology for the sake of ecumenism.[/quote] Oh my! This coming from a Protestant. Since they took the Bible and left behind the Church, they've had to re-write history and certainly their theology several thousand times over. [quote]Because it is the only one that the text will legitimately allow. [/quote] And I suppose this means that all Protestants agree on all interpritations of Scripture, since they all base their interpriations on the same idea? Hmmmm. Teresa, Ask them to identify the Table of Contents for you. The Bible Should at least be able to self-proclaim which writings are inspired... My prayers are with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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