eagle_eye222001 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1924865' date='Jul 19 2009, 01:46 PM']What about when there is no heartbeat nor brainwave activity?[/quote] What matters is if you have a human being growing. Heartbeat and brainwave activity are signs of a human baby growing and you don't necessarily need those to have a human being growing as the human being as be growing for a couple weeks or whatever to reach that point. ---------------- Now playing: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/norbertine+fathers+of+st.+michaels+abbey/track/norbertine+-+exultet"]Norbertine Fathers of St. Michael's Abbey - Norbertine - Exultet[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1924865' date='Jul 19 2009, 01:46 PM']What about when there is no heartbeat nor brainwave activity?[/quote] If we are concerned about brainwave activity, then I think a good portion of those who post on internet forums have a lot to worry about...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1921839' date='Jul 16 2009, 04:17 PM']What's the Catholic view on euthanasia? I'm just curious[/quote] "Taking into account these distinctions, in harmony with the Magisterium of Our Predecessors and in communion with the Bishops of the Catholic Church, We confirm that euthanasia is a grave violation of the law of God, since it is the deliberate and morally unacceptable killing of a human person. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium." (Pope John Paul II, [i]Evangelium Vitae[/i], 65) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1924929' date='Jul 19 2009, 12:34 PM']If we are concerned about brainwave activity, then I think a good portion of those who post on internet forums have a lot to worry about......[/quote] I whole-heartedly agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) [quote]So you'd rather that someone suffered than had a quick and painless death and (according to you guys) went up into heaven and had a happy picnic time with Jesus and all his clouds? (this is about euthanasia, not abortion in case you're wondering)[/quote] Edited July 19, 2009 by Selah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1924929' date='Jul 19 2009, 03:34 PM']If we are concerned about brainwave activity, then I think a good portion of those who post on internet forums have a lot to worry about......[/quote] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1922618' date='Jul 17 2009, 08:53 AM']EUTHANISIA IS NOT MURDER. If someone wants to die then let them[/quote] assisted suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 5th Commandments ' You shall not Kill. This also include abortion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 A better translation is Thou shalt not murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Well, either way, we are both stating that killing or murdering is a sin and should go to confis it before resiving Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Killing is not inherently sinful. Murder is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 To be honest I'm dubious about the whole "stopping potential life" arguement. There are millions upon million upon millions of sperms in the words but not all of those is going to get turned into a child. They don't live forever, either, so you could argue that a sperm dying is taking away potential life, but there's no way to stop it. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Yet an unborn child is not potential life. It is actual life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1937785' date='Aug 1 2009, 03:59 AM']To be honest I'm dubious about the whole "stopping potential life" arguement. There are millions upon million upon millions of sperms in the words but not all of those is going to get turned into a child. They don't live forever, either, so you could argue that a sperm dying is taking away potential life, but there's no way to stop it. Just a thought.[/quote] A sperm is only potential life inasmuch as it has potential to fertilize an egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 A sperm is a sperm, not a human life. Human life begins at conception. Any other period of time is completely arbitrary and unscientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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