Azriel Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 What they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' post='1910360' date='Jul 4 2009, 04:03 AM'][url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=95842&st=120&start=120"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...0&start=120[/url] In the posts above a phatmass member says that friendships between catholics and homosexuals are only appropriate if there is no chance of scandal (however that comes about through friendship) or the Catholics beliefs changing. I think we should avoid another debate about sexual ethics and assume the Church is right. I'd also like to expand the question to all sinners, not just active homosexuals. Clearly, I think so and I think it's great. Seperating ourselves from others is bad and this attitude smacks of arrogance. You guys? Maybe real life experiences too...[/quote] Having a gay friend and going to a gay club/bar with them on a regular basis would be scandalous. Having a gay person as a friend isn't scandalous. If anyone makes a big deal out of someone having a friend who decides to live a certain way, they're the one with the problem, not you. People ragging on others for their connections should take a hard look at themselves and ask what they're [i]really[/i] objecting to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartjp2 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1913260' date='Jul 7 2009, 12:20 AM']Can Catholics be friends with sinners? Yes. But can Catholics be friends with unrepentant proud sinners? No.[/quote] Hm, what if that person was someone in your family? I don't know your plans (or God's for you, for that matter), but what if one of your children turned out to be an "unrepentant[,] proud sinner"? It happens to the best of parents. How would you react to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasilius Konstantinos Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 In love and prayer. Thats all I have been able to do in such cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 *disclaimer - haven't read the entire thread [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1910387' date='Jul 4 2009, 09:45 AM']Prayer is as powerful a weapon as anything as far as I'm concerned, so if discussing it doesn't work, I'm sure they're as good a friend as any in this regard and doing what they can.[/quote] Very much agreed. I mean, think of St Monica. [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1910387' date='Jul 4 2009, 09:45 AM']I think people can be friends and get along while still openly disagreeing with each other on fundamental issues.[/quote] I hope so. Otherwise I might have to stop associating with a lot of my friends and family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 One of my best friends here has a niece who she told us was a lesbian, and now she is undergoing a sex change ala Chastity (Chaz) Bono. She walks such a tight line in loving and supporting her niece, and not approving of what she is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapache Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1919059' date='Jul 13 2009, 07:37 PM']One of my best friends here has a niece who she told us was a lesbian, and now she is undergoing a sex change ala Chastity (Chaz) Bono. She walks such a tight line in loving and supporting her niece, and not approving of what she is doing.[/quote] Hate the sin. Love the sinner. It's what we're called to do even in tough cases such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 the only people who arent friends with sinners look like this: [img]http://hotbiscuits.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/nerd-46422.jpg[/img] and thats because they have NO friends. everyone sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 No. You are not a good Catholic unless you avoid ALL sinners.... sinners....all of you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) [img]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/diablo_man/av-1057.jpg[/img] better watchout meg! its a slippery slope! Edited July 16, 2009 by Jesus_lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' post='1921452' date='Jul 16 2009, 02:55 AM'][img]http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/diablo_man/av-1057.jpg[/img] better watchout meg! its a slippery slope! [/quote] What a good lookin' sinless saint! OW OW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 heheheh it has been a while since i did some photochopping! not sure which was more flattering, but you should definitely find some sinner friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' post='1921455' date='Jul 16 2009, 03:13 AM']heheheh it has been a while since i did some photochopping! not sure which was more flattering, but you should definitely find some sinner friends![/quote] I liked my beard better. If people accept me, the greatest sinner of all, who am I not to accept them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 [quote name='picchick' post='1921463' date='Jul 16 2009, 05:00 AM']If people accept me, the greatest sinner of all,[/quote] If you're the greatest sinner of all, then I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 [quote name='Paddington' post='1921521' date='Jul 16 2009, 09:25 AM']If you're the greatest sinner of all, then I'm not. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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