Varg Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910432' date='Jul 4 2009, 06:20 AM']I thought that everyone in Europe greeted another by kissing him or her on the cheek?[/quote]No, I been to Europe many times and that never happens. Don't generalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniteAdoremus Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910432' date='Jul 4 2009, 01:20 PM']I thought that everyone in Europe greeted another by kissing him or her on the cheek?[/quote] Depends on the country and the level of formality. And in the Netherlands two men usually don't kiss, and if they do, it's more a cheeks touching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' post='1910437' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:27 AM']No, I been to Europe many times and that never happens. Don't generalise.[/quote] "[T]hat never happens" is no less a generalization than my statement. Edited July 4, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1910431' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:17 AM']Hm... In the past, as in, back when I had one, I would kiss my boyfriend on the cheek in greeting, even when we are in public. Passers-by would often think we are a gay couple and comment on this fact. If scandal is in the eye of the beholder, were we causing scandal?[/quote] I think oftentimes people will think things no matter how careful you are in certain situations. Honestly I don't necessarily think a kiss on the cheek (even male to male) is inherently evil if sexual passion is felt or intended. In centuries past young men were far more friendly with each other than they are now, especially boy children, and it wasn't considered all that out of the ordinary, much like girls even now can often show many signs of affection among their gender (hugging, kissing on cheek, holding hands for short periods of time etc.) without too many people batting an eye and considering them lesbian. But times do change, for better or worse, and I think people need to be careful when doing things that are not quite in line with current norms of accepted public behavior. But inherently I don't think it is wrong. [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1910431' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:17 AM']Oh, and regarding the topic: yes, you can and should be friends with sinners. Otherwise you'd have no friends. Doesn't mean you automatically approve of everything they do.[/quote] agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) All men who have or had use of reason (except our Lord and our Lady) are sinners, so I do not think that being friends with sinners can be helped. Edited July 4, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910439' date='Jul 4 2009, 06:29 AM']"[T]hat never happens" is no less a generalization than my statement.[/quote]Brah, I have European ancestory so I have more right to generalise Europeans than you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1910444' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:35 AM']Brah, I have European ancestory so I have more right to generalise Europeans than you do[/quote] Just like most Americans, I have European ancestry too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910445' date='Jul 4 2009, 06:37 AM']Just like most Americans, I have European ancestry too.[/quote]I'M MORE EUROPEAN THAN YOU ARE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' post='1910447' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:39 AM']I'M MORE EUROPEAN THAN YOU ARE![/quote] You are not truly European. To be truly European is to be Catholic. You are not Catholic. Q.E.D., you are not truly European. Edited July 4, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910448' date='Jul 4 2009, 06:41 AM']You are not truly European. To be truly European is to be Catholic. You are not Catholic. Q.E.D., you are not truly European. [/quote]To be truly European is to be Pagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' post='1910450' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:44 AM']To be truly European is to be Pagan.[/quote] Paganism has not been the religion of Europe since the fourth century, when Theodosius made Catholicism the religion of the Roman Empire. Edited July 4, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 omg! lame lame so lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1910452' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:46 AM']omg! lame lame so lame[/quote] iawtc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1910451' date='Jul 4 2009, 06:45 AM']Not since Theodosius made Catholicism the religion of the Roman Empire.[/quote]Nonetheless, the indegenous inhabitants of Europe were Pagan. They were the first. Therefore, to be [i]truly[/i] European you have to follow the original European religion which was Paganism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Varg' post='1910454' date='Jul 4 2009, 05:46 AM']Nonetheless, the indegenous inhabitants of Europe were Pagan. They were the first. Therefore, to be [i]truly[/i] European you have to follow the original European religion which was Paganism.[/quote] The indigenous peoples of Europe probably practiced the same primeval monotheism that Adam and Noah practiced, until this monotheism was largely degraded into paganism in most places. Edited July 4, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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