Nihil Obstat Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908800' date='Jul 2 2009, 11:29 PM']The men are certainly infected with sexual immorality. From my observation (and apparently from St. Augustine's) [b]that is not exactly controllable[/b].[/quote] I fervently disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Would you agree that young men are more avid seekers of impurity than young women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908807' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:35 AM']Would you agree that young men are more avid seekers of impurity than young women?[/quote] I am not sure anymore. I am a teacher, and the girls are at least as interested in "getting some" as the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I didn't know that teachers usually overheard such conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908813' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:38 AM']I didn't know that teachers usually overheard such conversations. [/quote] Silly boy. I hear everything. heck you don't want to know what I have [i]seen.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908813' date='Jul 2 2009, 11:38 PM']I didn't know that teachers usually overheard such conversations. [/quote] That's because you're fifteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908813' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:38 AM']I didn't know that teachers usually overheard such conversations. [/quote] You've never heard the rumors that nuns have eyes on the backs of their heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1908826' date='Jul 2 2009, 11:43 PM']You've never heard the rumors that nuns have eyes on the backs of their heads?[/quote] I wasn't aware that Don John was a nun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908835' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:46 AM']I wasn't aware that Don John was a nun. [/quote] No defiantly not a nun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 No comments on my points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Don John of Austria' post='1908858' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:55 AM']No comments on my points?[/quote] When discussing Catholic ethics/morals I like to stick to abstract principles (wisdom) as opposed to their application (prudence), so I guess I really dont have much to comment on, but thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908807' date='Jul 2 2009, 11:35 PM']Would you agree that young men are more avid seekers of impurity than young women?[/quote] We had a thread about that topic awhile ago. It went to a zillion pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1908740' date='Jul 2 2009, 09:55 PM']I think the point that St. Augustine was trying to make is that prostitution controls sexual immorality in a sense. If men can seek immorality among the prostitutes, then they will not seek it elsewhere as often. Rather than having all levels of society infected with sexual immorality, mainly the prostitutes are infected.[/quote] Most people living in sexual sin, Rex, live with and/ or have some emotional bond with their partner. As sexually active as my peers are, few of them are out looking for sex from complete strangers. Making prostitution available is not going to prevent men who want to have sex with their girlfriends from doing so. And if it does, if they do go to prostitutes on the side and then have their "honorable girlfriend/wife" on the other hand, that will just result in more failed marriages. That's like saying high schools should provide pornography and contraception to students because if they give it to them, they can control what type of pornography it is, and it'll be safer because they won't get it from shady people on the street. Yeah. Right. The reason the government has a more appropriate role in outlawing prostitution (and I would also say Pornography) rather than all fornication, is because the government properly has a role in governing commerce, and prostitution is commerce, the exchange of sex for material goods or legal tender. And Rex, please stop talking about human beings (namely prostitutes) like they're trash to be used to keep society nice and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) [quote]Also, more women might remain virgins before they married.[/quote] No they won't the more sex is looked at as a commodity, which the legalisation of prostitution would promote, the more readily the value of virginity will be disregarded. [quote]Prostitutes might be able to avoid drugs and violence, and the condition of their life might improve if prostitution were not associated with illegal activity.[/quote] If you've ever read about prostitution in the old west, you'd know this wasn't true. They basically became slaves of the brothel owners. They had a place to stay and food, sure, but they couldn't get out if they wanted to. If it's legal they will just be more entrenched by it. That's like saying if we legalize abortion than these impoverished families will not soak up so much tax dollars of honorable citizens because they won't be put into foster care, or welfare, or whatever. Because the rate of sexual promiscuity went up with the legalisation of abortion that just means that, yeah, we killed a lot of such children that we as a society no longer have to pay for, but they do still have a lot of children that they don't abort, but that are neglected and abused. Your reasoning is sick. Edited July 3, 2009 by zunshynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 good posts zunshynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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