Resurrexi Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1903999' date='Jun 28 2009, 03:15 PM']But WHY should it be a debate?[/quote] It is an important issue that affects Catholics today. Edited June 28, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1903999' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:15 PM']But WHY should it be a debate?[/quote] Exactly. It shouldn't. I should be a conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1904002' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:16 PM']It is an important issue that affects Catholics today.[/quote] It isn't really. The Magesterium has decided that it's fit to have both. Until the official position is changed, it's a non-issue and a matter of personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 Let's converse, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1904002' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:16 PM']It is an important issue that affects Catholics today.[/quote] I haven't lost any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1904005' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:17 PM']Let's converse, then.[/quote] ... um... we have? Your response was to show us how the EF is better and if we go to the OF and prefer it then we need to try harder at the EF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1904004' date='Jun 28 2009, 03:17 PM']It isn't really. The Magesterium has decided that it's fit to have both. Until the official position is changed, it's a non-issue and a matter of personal preference.[/quote] The Magisterium is the [b]teaching authority of the Church[/b]. This is mainly a matter of [b]discipline[/b]. It is only a matter of doctrine in that both forms are equally valid, that both are objectively holy, etc. Edited June 28, 2009 by Resurrexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1903868' date='Jun 28 2009, 02:47 PM']*boinks head against table*[/quote] He's fifteen. He'll get it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1904008' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:19 PM']I haven't lost any sleep over it.[/quote] That's because, like me, you are not a good Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='picchick' post='1904013' date='Jun 28 2009, 03:20 PM']That's because, like me, you are not a good Catholic. [/quote] You know that I never claimed anything of that sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='picchick' post='1904013' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:20 PM']That's because, like me, you are not a good Catholic. [/quote] But we have Res to teach us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bus Station Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 SERENITY NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='picchick' post='1904013' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:20 PM']That's because, like me, you are not a good Catholic. [/quote] Indeed, the Magisterium is only setting guidelines, because it's authority is in teaching apparently, not discipline. Therefore, for not losing sleep over it and following the teachings of the Magesterium that either is fine, we are bad. [quote]I do not think that that it takes away attention from the Mass. Praying the Sorrowful Mysteries actually makes sense during Mass, since the passion and death of our Lord are being re-presented in the Mass. That said, I do think that the best way to participate in the Mass is to pay attention to what is going on at the altar, to say the responses, and to join in chanting the Ordinary chants of the Mass.[/quote] And if one is going to pray the Rosary, then those are good mysteries to pray during the course of the Mass. It's been my experience however, in more than one parish, that the average person lacks the attention span or ability to be able to both participate fully and pray an entire other devotion. Edited June 28, 2009 by BG45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1904012' date='Jun 28 2009, 03:20 PM']He's fifteen. He'll get it eventually.[/quote] What is there to get? Most of the prayers of the EF obviously demonstrate the Church's teachings much more explicitly than those of the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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