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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1901495' date='Jun 25 2009, 05:41 PM']So you like a dead language more than a live one...[/quote]

:yes:

Formal English is not exactly dead, though.

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[quote post='1901288' date='Jun 25 2009, 01:40 PM']It sounds like someone is mad because his Latin teacher gave him a bad grade.[/quote]
Nope, never taken a class on Latin. The two things I detest the most are ignorance and the Latin language. That's why I see it fit to group the two together.

[quote name='The Bus Station' post='1901395' date='Jun 25 2009, 04:40 PM']This thread should be in the lame board.

:ninja:

Just sayin.[/quote]

Yes, I agree!
We need to stop bringing the language out of the grave.
Let it rest.

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[quote name='musturde' post='1901521' date='Jun 25 2009, 06:12 PM']Nope, never taken a class on Latin. The two things I detest the most are ignorance and the Latin language. That's why I see it fit to group the two together.[/quote]

Why, then, do you hate Latin?

Whether you like it or not, the Holy Roman Church will probably always use the sacred Latin language.

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901533' date='Jun 25 2009, 07:23 PM']Why, then, do you hate Latin?

Whether you like it or not, the Holy Roman Church will probably always use the sacred Latin language.[/quote]

That may be true, but just to spite you I'm going to use any power I might attain in the future to change that.

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[quote name='missionseeker' post='1901041' date='Jun 25 2009, 01:27 AM']It's annoying, sometimes.[/quote]

Only sometimes? :tomato:

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1901176' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:54 AM']Why do I continue to open Res's threads in the hope that they will be about something... anything.... else? :sadwalk:[/quote]

We haven't given up hope that he will broaden his horizons?

[quote name='rachael' post='1901185' date='Jun 25 2009, 10:25 AM']Because you [i]want[/i] to believe.[/quote]

:hehe:

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[quote name='musturde' post='1901568' date='Jun 25 2009, 07:45 PM']That may be true, but just to spite you I'm going to use any power I might attain in the future to change that.[/quote]

If I get married, my children will all go to daily Mass celebrated in Latin, and they will all study Latin academically. If I am ordained a priest, every Mass that I ever celebrate (and every hour of the Divine Office that I pray) will be in Latin. If I do not get married or become a priest, I have considered a career as a Latin professor. No matter what I do with my life, my efforts to spread Latin will at least quadruple whatever you do to suppress it.

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[quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1901386' date='Jun 25 2009, 02:32 PM']I'm in the process of learning Italian, it'll get added to the list once I can say more than "this is not a backpack, this is my uncle"*.

*actually a sentence that I had to learn. After "this is not a painting frame, this is a student."[/quote]

I used to be able to say, "coagulated milk in my pants makes me happy" in several languages.

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[quote name='musturde' post='1901568' date='Jun 25 2009, 08:45 PM']That may be true, but just to spite you I'm going to use any power I might attain in the future to change that.[/quote]


Old Church Slavonic, being the liturgical tongue of the true faith, rather than the apostate Church of the franks, is the absolute climax of linguistic perfection in my correct opinion. :mellow:

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901014' date='Jun 24 2009, 11:07 PM']I recently have discovered a website called [url="http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/"]Grammar Girl[/url]. Grammar Girl gives weekly grammar tips. I have discovered, though, that these ought not to be called helpful tips, but rather deceitful tricks. Not only does she permit [i]you[/i] to be used as an indefinite pronoun, but she also allows split infinitives.

Though trying to help her readers improve their writing, Grammar Girl actually is bastardizing our language. :ohno:[/quote]
What is it a bastardization of? The archaic syntax which itself was a bastardization of Old English?

And what are you doing when you, I assume, say "you go" rather than "thou goeth"?

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[quote name='Hassan' post='1901632' date='Jun 25 2009, 08:43 PM']What is it a bastardization of? The archaic syntax which itself was a bastardization of Old English?

And what are you doing when you, I assume, say "you go" rather than "thou goeth"?[/quote]

The present active indicative second person singular form of the verb [i]to go[/i] would be [i]goest[/i].

If thou art going to conjugate Early Modern English verbs, prithee, do so correctly!

:P

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901635' date='Jun 25 2009, 08:48 PM']The present active indicative second person singular form of the verb [i]to go[/i] would be [i]goest[/i].

If thou art going to conjugate Early Modern English verbs, prithee, do so correctly!

:P[/quote]

jerk :P


I'm sure you're correct about the conjugation, however I'm not sure that was the main point of my comment.

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I like Latin but I dont think it is sacred or above any other language. In fact it is a dead language, that is why it is theologically useful. Because it is dead it's use evades ambiguity.

I'm all for good grammar, but not grammar policing. The only grammar policing I do is correcting 'have went' to 'have gone.'

Besides- slicing and dicing the english language up is fun. Poetry suspends the rules of grammar in pursuit of expressing the unfathomable.

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[quote name='Hassan' post='1901652' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:03 PM']jerk :P


I'm sure you're correct about the conjugation, however I'm not sure that was the main point of my comment.[/quote]

It is true that all languages do evolve and develop, but that does not mean that one should not follow the rules of correct grammar in his language.

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901591' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:02 PM']If I get married, my children will all go to daily Mass celebrated in Latin, and they will all study Latin academically. If I am ordained a priest, every Mass that I ever celebrate (and every hour of the Divine Office that I pray) will be in Latin. If I do not get married or become a priest, I have considered a career as a Latin professor. No matter what I do with my life, my efforts to spread Latin will at least quadruple whatever you do to suppress it.[/quote]
:clap:

[quote name='Hassan' post='1901617' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:25 PM']Old Church Slavonic, being the liturgical tongue of the true faith, rather than the apostate Church of the franks, is the absolute climax of linguistic perfection in my correct opinion. :mellow:[/quote]
I applaud thy audacity.

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901635' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:48 PM']The present active indicative second person singular form of the verb [i]to go[/i] would be [i]goest[/i].

If thou art going to conjugate Early Modern English verbs, prithee, do so correctly!

:P[/quote]
We must bringeth back olde English! This modern confusion of singular and plural third person is irritating.

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[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1901635' date='Jun 25 2009, 09:48 PM']The present active indicative second person singular form of the verb [i]to go[/i] would be [i]goest[/i].

If thou art going to conjugate Early Modern English verbs, prithee, do so correctly!

:P[/quote]

Right, but it has to rhyme with "ghost" - it's NOT pronounced "go-est" - only the Middle Age-edly illiterate would make THAT old gaffe!

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