OraProMe Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) As some of you know lately I've been trying to live a chaste life and follow the Churches teaching on homosexuality, even if I can't understand it. I earnestly tried to understand and accept the Churches position so I could give a true submission of my intellect and will. Because of this I finally ended a one year relationship that made me very, very happy. But I just don't think I can do this or that God made me this way only to call me to a single life that I do not want to, and find no happiness in living. Nor do I think I can continue externally obeying and defending the Churches position on the issue while on the inside I disagree with it. I don't know, intellectual integrity or some croutons....... When I think of what my life will be like if I keep going the way I am I feel completely hopeless. I want to fall in love and move to London with a cute boy a raise kids together. I don't want to live the rest of my life alone, struggling to reconcile what my faith says is wrong with what my heart and mind say is right. So after I finish writing this I'm going to call James and talk about all this. I'm unsure where this leaves me and my relationship with God. I don't want this thread to turn into a debate, I just wanted to inform you guys of my decision and thank you for all the prayers individuals have promised me over my time here. Edited June 20, 2009 by OraProMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lumiere Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Hello, My heart goes out to you. My son is homosexual and I could not ask for a better son. He has found his place in this world and he is happy. You can and should be happy, too. Trying to do God's will should not make you unhappy. Despite what some people on this forum say and think, there are many interpretations of what the bible says. A good bit of this forum is people discussing different interpretations, even if they don't realize that they are doing it. Please see: [mod]Link contradicts church teaching. -dUSt[/mod] There is also a fair bit of discussion of different interpretations of Church policy, etc. on this forum and elsewhere. All I am trying to say is that things are not as black and white as some people say they are. God made you the way you are, do not be ashamed of God's work. Continue your journey, but do not do it in shame or fear, do it with the confidence that you are loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 All I can is that I will pray. I am sure yours is a very hard cross to bear. Just remember that God is with you, and He will help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1896481' date='Jun 20 2009, 08:17 AM'][/quote] Sorry, Res ): I know how comitted you are to the magisterium and I think that's great, so I don't want you to take offence at this. But you're only fifteen, I just think maybe when you get out of puberty and into university you'll understand all this stuff a little better, even if you disagree with it. God bless buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 +J.M.J.+ it took me years to believe what the Church teaches about abortion, even though i taught what the Church teaches. i pray that you continually follow God's will in all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilde Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 [quote name='Lumiere' post='1896485' date='Jun 20 2009, 10:32 AM']Hello, My heart goes out to you. My son is homosexual and I could not ask for a better son. He has found his place in this world and he is happy. You can and should be happy, too. Trying to do God's will should not make you unhappy. Despite what some people on this forum say and think, there are many interpretations of what the bible says. A good bit of this forum is people discussing different interpretations, even if they don't realize that they are doing it. Please see: [mod]Link contradicts church teaching. -dUSt[/mod] There is also a fair bit of discussion of different interpretations of Church policy, etc. on this forum and elsewhere. All I am trying to say is that things are not as black and white as some people say they are. God made you the way you are, do not be ashamed of God's work. Continue your journey, but do not do it in shame or fear, do it with the confidence that you are loved.[/quote] God's will should not make you happy, it should make you holy. The Church speaks the truth that God is and that he has revealed to us. True freedom can only be found by following his will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1896548' date='Jun 20 2009, 10:57 AM']God's will should not make you happy, it should make you holy. The Church speaks the truth that God is and that he has revealed to us. True freedom can only be found by following his will.[/quote] I agree. Living a Christian life is not always the path to 'self-fulfillment' in this world. A Christian life does not come with the promise short term happiness and rewards in this world or 'this side' of life. The effects of original sin are the cause of homosexual tendencies. The tendencies of original sin in one's body fight against what is good for the person and soul as well as against God. Overcoming these takes the grace of God, the Sacraments, self-denial, works of mercy, and prayer perhaps even a fair amount of study. Overcoming tendencies like these might cause psychological troubles, etc. Yet, in the end God heals and converges all things. Everyone has some tendency or tendencies, or life difficulties or troubles to overcome in this life and in God's wisdom that is the Way of the Cross. So prayers for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Living a moral life is extremely hard for me too, and I often feel like things would be so much easier if I didn't have to follow the guidance of the church. Homosexuality doesn't have a monopoly on mortal sins and desires. But I fight through it. Our reward is not in this life. I'm sorry that you have given up the fight in exchange for worldly things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie-Therese Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I love you, dear brother. I will continue to pray for you. The Lord is faithful and WILL lead you where He wants you to go, if you are faithful to listen. I am always here to talk to if you want, just PM me. Carrying our crosses is difficult. We fall, as did the Lord Jesus, and wipe our faces, get up, and try again. Don't worry. Pray. That is what you need. Pray a rosary every day. You will obtain strength. May our Holy Mother give you her love and protection, and lavish grace upon you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Always keep your heart open to Him. I know how it is to choose this life over the next, so in that respect I can only say that I DO understand. I'm sad for you, bro, but I get it. Never lose your faith, and keep seeking God...where He leads us is often the last place we expect to find ourselves. Praying for you. *hugs* I hope you stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkaands Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' post='1896488' date='Jun 20 2009, 08:50 AM']Sorry, Res ): I know how comitted you are to the magisterium and I think that's great, so I don't want you to take offence at this. But you're only fifteen, I just think maybe when you get out of puberty and into university you'll understand all this stuff a little better, even if you disagree with it. God bless buddy [/quote] I won't comment on morality, as I disagree with the official stance. but I will say this: the same rules apply to all relationships.-- --Be faithful to each other. --Be considerate. Keep your mouth shut, the first 19 of 20 rules of married life. There are certain things I have observed in some male same-sex relationships, more than female same-sex relationships: promiscuity; sometimes an emphasis on S/M aspects; a strong emphasis on beauty: good looks; weight, etc. Avoid all of this. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 In order to be a Christian, one must love to the extreme... not in the world's version of "love" but in the true version of LOVE: that of Christ's. We must strive to love in that same love that made Him take the heavy blows of His scourging; that same love that made Him drag the heavy cross through the streets of Jerusalem; that same love that kept him nailed to the cross until He died. [b]Love demands Sacrifice.[/b] It isn't easy, but it's worth it! What I am hearing from you, is that you have decided to give up carrying your cross. You have decided to "love" in a very selfish way. You think this is a life of "happiness?" Satan is deceiving you!!! Where is the sacrifice? The Lord does not want this. He does not wish this for you. Your deep-seated homosexual tendencies are not as powerful as God. And I know it isn't easy, but overcoming those tendencies IS POSSIBLE. I can guarentee ALL OF US are suffering from some sort of weakness that can make or break us.... homosexual tendencies aren't the only difficult things to overcome... for me, it is a constant struggle with living celibately in a world that flashes the flesh in my face where ever I go... that constant battle between the flesh and the Spirit... c'mon my friend! DON'T GIVE UP!!! The flesh will only lead you down a very darkened path.... you have a calling to exceed the limitations of your flesh and have a relationship with GOD in the highest realms of the Spirit! Don't give up now! I'm praying for you, and offering up sacrifices and prayers and Mass for you... JUST DON'T GIVE UP!!!! GOD ISN'T! He's with you every step of your struggle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat22 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 everyone hits their hard times were they doubt god, purpose for living, theirs reasons for abstaining from sinful wordly pleasures. times when they feel alone, and silly for blindly following the rules of someone they don't even know, or even for believing and focusing on someone who is supposedly all around you, but all you see is the wall. but these are the times that god rewards, not the times when its easy to be good and faithful, but when its hard. persevere, don't give up, the whole phamily is rooting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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