Brother Vinny Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) Okay, all this thinking about should do's and might have been's surrounding the recent slaughter of a abortionist has struck up comparisons to Hitler and Mengele, but I'd like to look at this from another angle. We tend to condemn these as monsters (justifiably so), but we look at these two enjoying the enhanced vision granted us by history. Let's look at another murderer of innocents, one Saul of Tarsus. Saul mercilessly persecuted the Church, presiding over the stoning of St. Stephen, the first Christian martyr. There's not much written about how far Saul went in his persecution of the Church, but we have his inspired testimony that he was intent on destroying the Church (Galatians 1:13). So, the question is this: prior to Saul's Damascus Road experience, would a Christian have been justified in slaughtering him? After all, there was no way of knowing Saul would convert, and not only did Saul kill innocents, he profited from it as well (as it was his job). Killing Saul at the right time would've saved lives, as well. If you cannot justify killing Saul, how can you justify killing Tiller? Edited June 9, 2009 by Brother Vinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Exactly. Norma McCorvey (Roe of Roe v. Wade) is now a vehement pro-lifer - you never know when God is going to work in people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vinny Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 I came to realize after thinking about the issue, that my frustration betrays a lack of trust in the One Who is in control of all things. He sees the ends whereas I do not. God may yet have had use for George Tiller; maybe his own "Damascus Road" experience was just a few hours away. What kind of servant of God do you think he might have become had God opened his eyes to the suffering he'd caused? We'll never know now, will we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 [quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1886910' date='Jun 8 2009, 11:13 PM']I came to realize after thinking about the issue, that my frustration betrays a lack of trust in the One Who is in control of all things. He sees the ends whereas I do not. God may yet have had use for George Tiller; maybe his own "Damascus Road" experience was just a few hours away. What kind of servant of God do you think he might have become had God opened his eyes to the suffering he'd caused? We'll never know now, will we?[/quote] Great realization, Brother Vinny - thank you for letting us in on it -it came from God I'm sure. God Bless, Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vinny Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 This is a good thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1886910' date='Jun 9 2009, 12:13 AM']I came to realize after thinking about the issue, that my frustration betrays a lack of trust in the One Who is in control of all things. He sees the ends whereas I do not.[/quote] Well thank you And needless to say I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1887517' date='Jun 9 2009, 10:29 PM']Well thank you And needless to say I agree.[/quote] I THOUGHT YOU WERE DETOXING, RUSH!!! These mad delusions must cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vinny Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1887459' date='Jun 9 2009, 09:46 PM']This is a good thread.[/quote] It'd be better if its GoH would show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1887550' date='Jun 9 2009, 11:02 PM']I THOUGHT YOU WERE DETOXING, RUSH!!! These mad delusions must cease.[/quote] Why would a Glorious Sultan need to detox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1886834' date='Jun 8 2009, 10:41 PM']Let's look at another murderer of innocents, one Saul of Tarsus. Saul mercilessly persecuted the Church, presiding over the stoning of St. Stephen, the first Christian martyr. There's not much written about how far Saul went in his persecution of the Church, but we have his inspired testimony that he was intent on destroying the Church (Galatians 1:13). So, the question is this: prior to Saul's Damascus Road experience, would a Christian have been justified in slaughtering him? After all, there was no way of knowing Saul would convert, and not only did Saul kill innocents, he profited from it as well (as it was his job). Killing Saul at the right time would've saved lives, as well. If you cannot justify killing Saul, how can you justify killing Tiller?[/quote] Fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1887568' date='Jun 10 2009, 12:18 AM'] Why would a Glorious Sultan need to detox? [/quote] I thought you claimed yourself no longer to be the Sultan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1887685' date='Jun 10 2009, 08:34 AM']I thought you claimed yourself no longer to be the Sultan... [/quote] That was the half sober/clean secret Rush Limbaugh (who had a measure of sanity). This one is so whacked out on Oxycontin he doesn't actually know what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I think the true measure of this thread is not who has responded but who seems to have stayed away.... very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I would tend to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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