Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1883143' date='Jun 4 2009, 12:27 PM']did you guys always use the expression "sheesh" 'cos I thought I only used that word? and yes, I agree with your list...[/quote] I think the list is the point that we've been trying to get across. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1883140' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:27 PM']Sheesh. This is such a circular arguement. I will agree to disagree if everyone would agree that the following list of priorities is in the proper order. 1) Phystical and spiritual presence and reverence 2) Modest Clothing 3) Formal Clothing[/quote] i don't know that you can separate the virtue of modesty from reverence. Edited June 4, 2009 by fides quarens intellectum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Sure ya can You can be modestly clothed but not be reverent in dress Jeans and a t-shirt can be very modest, but would they be showing reverence or respect if you were to have a meeting with someone in a high authority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' post='1883146' date='Jun 4 2009, 03:28 PM']I think the list is the point that we've been trying to get across. Thank you![/quote] Holy Moly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) true.... like you can go to Mass dressed in a polyester clown costume that is modest, and be totally irreverent... (i've seen a lector do this for a Children's mass.... SHEESH!) Edited June 4, 2009 by dominicansoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' post='1883149' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:30 PM']Sure ya can You can be modestly clothed but not be reverent in dress Jeans and a t-shirt can be very modest, but would they be showing reverence or respect if you were to have a meeting with someone in a high authority? [/quote] i meant modesty as a virtue, though, not modesty as an adjective that's applied to a lot of clothing these days. i tend to think that modesty is more than just the cut of one's clothes. Sorry - i should stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' post='1883149' date='Jun 4 2009, 12:30 PM']Sure ya can You can be modestly clothed but not be reverent in dress Jeans and a t-shirt can be very modest, but would they be showing reverence or respect if you were to have a meeting with someone in a high authority? [/quote] How about modest shorts and modest shirt. They are modest, but not reverent Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1883159' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:33 PM']true.... like you can go to Mass dressed in a polyester clown costume that is modest, and be totally irreverent...[/quote] true... but i wouldn't call that modest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' post='1883159' date='Jun 4 2009, 03:33 PM']true.... like you can go to Mass dressed in a polyester clown costume that is modest, and be totally irreverent...[/quote] Haha I quit. I love you gals... and I promise to sit far away from you if I ever show up to your church in jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1883157' date='Jun 4 2009, 12:32 PM']Holy Moly! [/quote] It's amazing what happens when someone is able to very clearly get across what they're trying to say, eh? Thank you for the list, btw-I'm very opinionated, as you've seen, but not always able to clearly get across what I want to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Bro. Adam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1883164' date='Jun 4 2009, 12:35 PM']Haha I quit. I love you gals... and I promise to sit far away from you if I ever show up to your church in jeans. [/quote] I don't think I've ever shot dirty looks or said anything to anyone about the way they are dressed. It has only made me sad to see irreverence for the Mass and Sacrament when I know they had time to dress adequately for Mass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Sometimes my Mass atire is scrubs and gym shoes. Have you ever thought that maybe people have no choice sometimes but to wear jeans and a t-shirt? Sometimes people do their best. I know this is probably the exception rather than the norm but still those people exist. Or they are coming/going to work and need to wear their uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' post='1883167' date='Jun 4 2009, 03:37 PM']I don't think I've ever shot dirty looks or said anything to anyone about the way they are dressed. It has only made me sad to see irreverence for the Mass and Sacrament when I know they had time to dress adequately for Mass [/quote] I wonder if people think of me as irrevrent while I sit up all night in adoration in jeans. Nope... probably not... most of them are fast asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='picchick' post='1883168' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:37 PM']Sometimes my Mass atire is scrubs and gym shoes. Have you ever thought that maybe people have no choice sometimes but to wear jeans and a t-shirt? Sometimes people do their best. I know this is probably the exception rather than the norm but still those people exist. Or they are coming/going to work and need to wear their uniform.[/quote] Yes, they've/we've addressed such issues several times in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 [quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1883147' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:29 PM']i don't know that you can separate the virtue of modesty from reverence.[/quote] [quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' post='1883149' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:30 PM']Sure ya can You can be modestly clothed but not be reverent in dress [/quote] [quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1883161' date='Jun 4 2009, 01:33 PM']i meant modesty as a virtue, though, not modesty as an adjective that's applied to a lot of clothing these days. i tend to think that modesty is more than just the cut of one's clothes.[/quote] Sorry - i said i would stop, but i took two seconds and found a nice dictionary definition of modesty, and this is in a secular sense: [quote]The state or quality of being modest. Reserve or propriety in speech, dress, or behavior. Lack of pretentiousness; simplicity.[/quote] Apply that propriety to the reverence due to Mass and my original opinion still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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