How About Heard Hearing

[Muus]

Many communities have a qualifications about health. My question: how about they thinking about bad hearing? I know, some communities lives from gifts, will be that a problem if you've a bad hearing?

[size=1]My knowledge of English isn't very well, please forgive me[/size]

[the lords sheep]

Welcome! We have a couple people here who speak Dutch.
I think it (a) depends on the community and (b) depends on how hard of hearing one is.

God bless you!

[puellapaschalis]

[quote name='the lords sheep' post='1875989' date='May 27 2009, 02:44 AM']Welcome! We have a couple people here who speak Dutch.[/quote]

And one of them's an English lecturer

[VeniteAdoremus]

Hi Muus, welcome!

If you're unsure about a word or sentence, just post the Dutch behind it, and PP or I will translate it (als je een woord of zin niet weet, schrijf het Nederlands er dan achter, en PP of ik zullen het wel vertalen ).

Whether impaired hearing is a problem depends on the community. A lot of communities do not accept many disabilities, but many others do. There is a community devoted to spreading the Gospel in sign language... unfortunately they are for men (and in America). [url="http://www.dominicanmissionaries.org/nfwebsite/nfindex.html"]Their site is here[/url] and [url="http://www.catholicvoiceoakland.org/06-09-18/inthisissue3.htm"]here's a cool article[/url].

[url="http://www.dominican-sisters.net/stmarys/index.html"]The Dominican Sisters in New Orleans[/url] also minister to deaf and impaired-hearing people, that might make it easier to fit in.

(I'm not only posting about Dominicans on purpose, honest! )

As a rule, it really depends on the community, so you will have to ask the communities you're interested in.

Edited May 27, 2009 by VeniteAdoremus

[Muus]

Thx for help, VA and PP! Reading is easier than writing . The dutch construction between the english are somtimes ...

Nice articles!

I had once a conversation with a novice mistress and they had a wrong image of hard of hearing. It is difficult to change the image, and yes, you need some help (batteries) but the person who have problems with seeing, need glasses. I always think: you have a disability or behave as if you have a disability.

Ik had ooit een gesprek met een novicemeesteres en ze had een verkeerd beeld van slechthorenden. Het is lastig om het beeld bij te stellen en ja, je bent misschien wel hulpbehoevend maar dat geldt eigenlijk voor mensen met een bril. Ik denk altijd: je kan een handicap hebben of gedragen alsof je een handicap hebt.

[puellapaschalis]

Ok, so you can read English fine and I don't need to type in Dutch, right? Just say if you do, it's no hassle (I'm just lazy )!

I really think it will depend from one community to the next; my advice would be to [i]not[/i] try and hide this part of you, but simply be open about it. Carry on praying, and contacting communities when you feel ready; don't let any kind of "fear" stop you from growing closer to Christ.

One thing I'd also advise against is to make "provision" for those who are hard of hearing some kind of mission for yourself right now. Our first vocation is to holiness, and lots of us here are looking in the direction of religious life. If God wants you to become a kind of crusader for "equality" (or whatever)...I don't think it will come at this stage. If a community says to you, "You shouldn't enter here, because of your hearing problem," as unfair as it might seem, accept it and move on.

[Muus]

I'm agree with you.

Sometimes it feels unfair, yes. We've to do, what He wants. Thx for your advice!

Slaap zacht! (sleep well)

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Edited May 27, 2009 by Muus

[Luigi]

Muus:

I know of an order, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondolet, who run a school for Deaf children, and they have a university that prepares educators of the Deaf. They have at least one sister who is Deaf (oral). Because the order is aware of deafness and hard of hearing issues, they might be more willing to accept hard of hearing applicants.

[url="http://www.csjsl.org/"]http://www.csjsl.org/[/url] - the order

[url="http://www.fontbonne.edu/academics/undergraduatedegreeprogram/communicationdisordersdeaf/deafeducationdegree/"]http://www.fontbonne.edu/academics/undergr...ducationdegree/[/url] - the university and Deaf Ed degree

[url="http://www.sjid.org/"]http://www.sjid.org/[/url] - St. Joseph's Institute for the Deaf (it seems they have several schools)

[shortnun]

[quote name='Luigi' post='1880386' date='Jun 1 2009, 01:35 PM']Muus:

I know of an order, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondolet, who run a school for Deaf children, and they have a university that prepares educators of the Deaf. They have at least one sister who is Deaf (oral). Because the order is aware of deafness and hard of hearing issues, they might be more willing to accept hard of hearing applicants.

[url="http://www.csjsl.org/"]http://www.csjsl.org/[/url] - the order

[url="http://www.fontbonne.edu/academics/undergraduatedegreeprogram/communicationdisordersdeaf/deafeducationdegree/"]http://www.fontbonne.edu/academics/undergr...ducationdegree/[/url] - the university and Deaf Ed degree

[url="http://www.sjid.org/"]http://www.sjid.org/[/url] - St. Joseph's Institute for the Deaf (it seems they have several schools)[/quote]
I am familiar with all of these schools, in addition to having a friend who just made first vows with this community. Deaf education is very big in their charism. It's a wonderful ministry.

[mariaassunta]

Just trust in God and being Honest is a must for any Religious Community, if God truly wants you in a place or community HE will provide for and make sure you get there. But sometimes we must also suffer too to reach the the center of the Cross.

[Sister Rose Therese]

I guess it might depend on whether your hearing impairment can be corrected with hearing aids and whether the community has the resources to provide those.
We have had sisters who entered many years ago who needed hearing aids. That was back in the 1930s and 1940s. It really wasn't much of an issue as far as I can tell.

[Muus]

Oh, thx for the suggestions!

Well, I'll need hearing aids. Without them, I can't hear (if you want to make music louder than 80dB ). With the hearing aids, conversations isn't difficult for me. I can't talk sign language, because it's importanter to talk than make signs (many people doesn't understand the sign language, talking is better).
A lot of people (with hearing aids) have a bad voice (it seems normal by deaf people, if you know what I mean), when I was young, I've learn good talking through speech therapy.

Pax!

[Gemma]

[quote name='Muus' post='1875847' date='May 26 2009, 07:19 PM']Many communities have a qualifications about health. My question: how about they thinking about bad hearing? I know, some communities lives from gifts, will be that a problem if you've a bad hearing?

[size=1]My knowledge of English isn't very well, please forgive me[/size][/quote]

There have been religious communities founded specifically for the deaf. There had been one in Cincinnati, OH, in the 1920s, but the bishop suppressed it for whatever reason. The project had been spearheaded by the Sisters of Charity of Cincinnati. As I understand it, the sisters who did not go back into society were received by the SCCs.

There was another, whose name I've never heard, but they were suppressed, also.

The Dominican Missionaries to the Deaf are in California. I am not sure if they will ever have a feminine counterpart.

The Sisters of Our Lady of Sorrows--or similar name--is for those who are deaf and are sponsored by a religious community. There have been previous threads regarding this subject.

A partially deaf and legally blind discerner had been working on a rule for a deaf community, but I'm not sure where she's going with it. She had planned to make it internet-based.

I could email her and see if she is interested in having a hard-of-hearing friend in the Netherlands.

Blessings,
Gemma

[Jennifer G.]

[quote name='Muus' post='1883128' date='Jun 4 2009, 03:21 PM']Oh, thx for the suggestions!

Well, I'll need hearing aids. Without them, I can't hear (if you want to make music louder than 80dB ). With the hearing aids, conversations isn't difficult for me. I can't talk sign language, because it's importanter to talk than make signs (many people doesn't understand the sign language, talking is better).
A lot of people (with hearing aids) have a bad voice (it seems normal by deaf people, if you know what I mean), when I was young, I've learn good talking through speech therapy.

Pax![/quote]

That sounds exactly like me. I also have a hearing loss, but I've forgotten almost any sign language I've learned when I was a toddler (save for "I want cookie!". ) I remember speech therapy when I was little (and recorded your voice for feedback. I really hate how I sound...).

Anyway, I've thought about that. Just how would a convent deal with someone who has a hearing loss (needs battaries, of course). I also have very near sighted vision, too. I wouldn't even hear the morning bell to wake everyone up. (It could be the loudest thunder outside too, and I wouldn't even wake up. Sometimes I even sleep through my radio alarm clock - at FULL VOLUME!!!). Fortunately, though, if I go to bed by 10pm, I always wake up around 4:30am.

[Muus]

[quote name='Jennifer G.' post='1887005' date='Jun 9 2009, 07:52 AM']That sounds exactly like me. I also have a hearing loss, but I've forgotten almost any sign language I've learned when I was a toddler (save for "I want cookie!". ) I remember speech therapy when I was little (and recorded your voice for feedback. I really hate how I sound...).

Anyway, I've thought about that. Just how would a convent deal with someone who has a hearing loss (needs battaries, of course). I also have very near sighted vision, too. I wouldn't even hear the morning bell to wake everyone up. (It could be the loudest thunder outside too, and I wouldn't even wake up. Sometimes I even sleep through my radio alarm clock - at FULL VOLUME!!!). Fortunately, though, if I go to bed by 10pm, I always wake up around 4:30am.[/quote]

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