Seatbelt Blue Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 www.party-x.org I'm seriously considering sending my vote the way of Darren Karr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Unfortunately, he is not pro-life. [url="http://www.darrenforpresident.com/pages/platform2.html"]http://www.darrenforpresident.com/pages/platform2.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Karr Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hi Seatbelt Blue. Thanks for considering voting for me. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. thicke, can you tell me what you expect a pro-life president to do for you? Have a great day, Darren Karr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCC_Catholic Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 a pro life pres will prove to me at least that EVERY LIFE is important and within a few days of conseption there is a heart beat so i could not vote for someone who did not believe that murder in any case is wrong and abortition is wrong. that is all i have to say Sarah Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='Darren Karr' date='Mar 28 2004, 04:18 PM'] thicke, can you tell me what you expect a pro-life president to do for you? [/quote] I'm not thicke, but I'll throw my .02 cents in here anyway. A pro-life president acknowledges that from the moment of conception there is a human being, who deserves all the rights of people already born. A pro-life president is against abortion. A pro-life president will do anything in his power to ban abortion. A pro-life president will not be wishy-washy on this issue of murder and will not back down on trying to ban abortion. That's what a pro-life president should be. Do you fit this description? To put it plainly, Abortion = Murder. Any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 A pro-life president is against both abortion and the death penalty, unless the purpose the death penalty is used is for common safety and not for punishment or vengeance. Also, if you ever become president, let my cousin stay in the Lincoln Bedroom. He has cancer and that was his wish for the Make a Wish Foundation under the Clinton Administration and Clinton wouldn't let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Well Mr. Karr, any answer I could give would be nothing other than repeating what my phamily has already said. Side note to Raphael - I am sorry to hear about your cousin. I pray he makes it to the Lincoln bedroom soon. Typically, Make-A-Wish spends up to $5000 for a wish. Unfortunately under the Clinton administration, a night in the Lincoln bedroom went for a lot more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCC_Catholic Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 i agree with what my pham has said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seatbelt Blue Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 The President does not have the power to overturn abortion. Unless one can convince me otherwise, I feel I can, in good conscience, vote for a pro-abortion candidate if I adhere to most of his platform. The President is neither a legislator nor a constitutional scholar; he is an officer charged with enforcing the law passed by the Congress, and not himself a lawmaker. Inasmuch as his power to appoint Supreme Court justices, justices rarely behave as predicted; consider Earl Warren. I do not believe abortion will ever be outlawed in our time; I think it's more effective to change hearts and minds than it is to change laws. People will break laws, but rarely will a person betray his or her deepest held beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seatbelt Blue Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='Carrie' date='Mar 28 2004, 08:17 PM'] I'm not thicke, but I'll throw my .02 cents in here anyway. A pro-life president acknowledges that from the moment of conception there is a human being, who deserves all the rights of people already born. A pro-life president is against abortion. A pro-life president will do anything in his power to ban abortion. A pro-life president will not be wishy-washy on this issue of murder and will not back down on trying to ban abortion. That's what a pro-life president should be. Do you fit this description? To put it plainly, Abortion = Murder. Any questions? [/quote] A pro-life president opposes the death penalty. Bush has not made it clear that he does so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='Carrie' date='Mar 28 2004, 07:17 PM'] I'm not thicke, but I'll throw my .02 cents in here anyway. A pro-life president acknowledges that from the moment of conception there is a human being, who deserves all the rights of people already born. A pro-life president is against abortion. A pro-life president will do anything in his power to ban abortion. A pro-life president will not be wishy-washy on this issue of murder and will not back down on trying to ban abortion. That's what a pro-life president should be. Do you fit this description? To put it plainly, Abortion = Murder. Any questions? [/quote] :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seatbelt Blue Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 Straight from Mr. Karr's mouth: "I personally do not believe in abortion. I would not want a child of mine aborted at any point during the pregnancy. I am completely against late term abortion. Based on the fact that the child has a heart beat, brain activity, and is capable of sustaining life outside of the womb, the child is a human being and the Constitution protects the child’s right to life. Abortion before these criteria are met I believe is Constitutional because I do not believe the child is human until these criteria are met. I understand the argument that the life form inside the woman has a soul at conception and therefore is a living human, but it must be understood that not everyone believes in a “soul” which is a religious belief and religion must not become part of law. If it does, we must accept religious beliefs from every religion which I think you would agree would be a huge mess. This is why the Founders gave us the separation of church and state. Now, because I do not believe in abortion, I am all for stopping it. However, I would go about it in a completely different, legal way. I like to get to the root of problems to solve them because attacking the surface is a losing battle and at best, a short term solution. For instance, to outlaw abortion in this country will not get rid of the problem of abortion. Women will still seek them and will have the procedure even if it is illegal. My approach will be to attack the root of the problem which is unwanted pregnancies. Stop unwanted pregnancies and you will stop most all forms of abortion, legal or otherwise. The bottom line is, abortion will be legal at least throughout our lifetimes. If you really want to stop it, go after the root causes, not the surface." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 anything is possible with God. abortion can and will be illegal. how soon depends on the amount of prayer and fighting we do for the unborn. for all the times standing outside of abortion clinics for the unborn babies being murdered, thats my prayer. and i will not pray for less. God bless. +JMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seatbelt Blue Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 Yeah, because outlawing car theft ended car theft. Because outlawing alcohol made people stop drinking. The only way to change behavior is either to change their mind or make the alternative unthinkable. Want to end abortion? Pray for a change of hearts; the change in law will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 the change in law is going to be what stops the massive numbers abortion makes everyday. unborn babies lives depend on that law. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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