Icons Representing God The Father

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Raphael' post='1889225' date='Jun 12 2009, 03:33 PM']. . . I get that the Father is always seen through the Son, as He is the image of the Father, but does the Son, through His manifestations, not still represent the Father (and, naturally, Himself and the Holy Spirit)?[/quote]
As Christ said, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father," but this is a mediated hypostatic representation of the Father through the Son.

[Vasilius Konstantinos]

Kudos Apo for your insight. Iconography is such a beautiful Tradition that should not be looked over as much as it is in the West. The devotion to Icons in prayer and contemplation is paramount to my walk in Christ. I pray others would be able to find and fulfill their spiritual devotions in such a manner as well.

[Selah]

[img]http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/14_2_ancient_days.jpg[/img]

[Vincent Vega]

Is that an Icon or simply a painting in the iconic style?

[Selah]

I dunno. How can you tell?

[Vincent Vega]

Not sure.

[Selah]

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Selah' date='24 June 2010 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1277409313' post='2133718']
I dunno. How can you tell?
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[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='24 June 2010 - 02:57 PM' timestamp='1277409428' post='2133720']
Not sure.
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You ask Apo, that's how!

[Selah]

okay!

[Apotheoun]

It is an icon of Christ, the Ancient of Days, from Holy Trinity Orthodox Church in Parma Ohio:

[url="http://www.holy-trin.org/welcome.html"]Holy Trinity Orthodox Church[/url]


The image used to be posted on their parish website, but was removed a few years ago.

Internet Archive still has the old link: [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20070216031526/http://www.holy-trin.org/Icons/InsideTemple/14_2_Ancient_Days.JPG"]Ancient of Days[/url]

[Apotheoun]

More pictures of the icons at Holy Trinity Orthodox Church (Parma, Ohio) can be found by clicking the link below to Internet Archive wayback machine:

[url="http://web.archive.org/web/20060118001022/http://www.holy-trin.org/"]Holy Trinity Church[/url]

Once the old Holy Trinity parish website comes up, click on the "Holy Trinity Icons" button.

Internet Archive is very slow, and it may not work in bringing up the page the first time. I had to refresh the page several times before it finally worked properly for me.

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='13 June 2009 - 07:49 AM' timestamp='1244836147' post='1889164']
In making this poll, I intended the word "icon" to mean any image for Christian veneration; thus, I would say it is not correct to say that most icons are two-dimensional.


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Yeah that one caught my attention also. Nearly every icon in our Church with the exception of the murals is three dimensional. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bairnsdale,_Victoria"]here[/url] The Church itself is an icon and possesses an aura of peace. but that's because it is Gods house it should be respected and appreciated but not venerated.

Re thread. As long as the icon is understood to represent God and is an aid to concentration and that any power comes from God not the icon then I see nothing wrong with it. I kiss my crucifix as an act of love to Jesus not the crucifix itself.

Edited June 24, 2010 by Mark of the Cross

[Vincent Vega]

Is there any way to tell if it is an icon or not just by looking at it?
There are a few icon-looking pieces in my local art museum, and I'd venerate them (if I knew how) if I knew they were icons.

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='24 June 2010 - 11:52 PM' timestamp='1277437927' post='2133931']
Is there any way to tell if it is an icon or not just by looking at it?
There are a few icon-looking pieces in my local art museum, and I'd venerate them (if I knew how) if I knew they were icons.
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[Resurrexi]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='24 June 2010 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1277437927' post='2133931']
Is there any way to tell if it is an icon or not just by looking at it?
There are a few icon-looking pieces in my local art museum, and I'd venerate them (if I knew how) if I knew they were icons.
[/quote]

It is equally as acceptable to venerate an image like [url="http://frsimon.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/botticelli_annunciation.jpg"]this[/url] as it is to venerate one like [url="http://calindragan.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/ohrid_annunciation_icon.jpg"]this[/url].

An important point to remember is that, in venerating an image, one is not venerating the materials out of which the image is made or even the blessing which may have been given to the image by a priest. One is using the image, as a representation of Christ, our Lady, or a saint, to give honor to the person whom it represents. As long as the image can truly be said to represent such a person in accordance with Catholic tradition, honor can be rendered to that person through the image.

Edited June 25, 2010 by Resurrexi