RezaMikhaeil Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Lounge Daddy, whats your thoughts on Ron Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 [quote]A member of the Republican National Committee told me Tuesday that when the RNC meets in an extraordinary special session next week, it will approve a resolution rebranding Democrats as the “Democrat Socialist Party.”[/quote] The GOP is a little late isn't it? The Democrats rebranded themselves that some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I'm ready to go back to the Green Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1868158' date='May 15 2009, 05:59 PM']The GOP is a little late isn't it? The Democrats rebranded themselves that some time ago.[/quote] I don't recall seeing "Socialism" within the Democratic Platform... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1868110' date='May 15 2009, 04:58 PM']Lounge Daddy, whats your thoughts on Ron Paul?[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1868110' date='May 15 2009, 03:58 PM']Lounge Daddy, whats your thoughts on Ron Paul?[/quote] I much prefer Alan Keyes, but I think 3rd party conservatives need to rally together better than we do, and I do think Ron Paul would have a better shot, so I would have no problem getting behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='RezaLemmyng' post='1868110' date='May 15 2009, 04:58 PM']Lounge Daddy, whats your thoughts on Ron Paul?[/quote] I think he is one of the very few sincere people in Washington today. What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1868521' date='May 15 2009, 11:08 PM']I think he is one of the very few sincere people in Washington today. What are your thoughts?[/quote] I believe that he's closest to the true values of the republican party and def one of the most sincere people in washington. He's got his flaws, nobody is perfect, but he's one of few hopes for washington. He's probably the only truely conservative people that is for less taxes, less spending. Edited May 16, 2009 by RezaLemmyng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' post='1868305' date='May 15 2009, 09:28 PM']I don't recall seeing "Socialism" within the Democratic Platform...[/quote] AKA Anti-Capitalism, Redistribution of Wealth, National Health Care, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1868594' date='May 16 2009, 03:36 AM']AKA Anti-Capitalism, Redistribution of Wealth, National Health Care, etc...[/quote] First of all, Capitalism isn't the antithesis of Socialism, it is its bedfellow. Just read a little Hilaire Belloc or Chesterton. To be anti-Capitalist is not by any means Socialist. And to be pro-Capitalism does not necessarily mean anti-Socialism. Secondly, both parties believe in a redistribution of wealth, it's called taxes. The Democratic platform does not come out and say that it is in favor of a "redistribution of wealth" but neither do the Republicans. Neither have any affection at all really for the tax payer. Both parties are more than happy to take tax dollars and use them to make others rich, whether those others include the powerful at the top of the industrial military complex, or the poor. It's wrong regardless of which party is doing it, and both parties are doing it. I don't see "National Health Care" in the plan at all. Nor do I see "Nationalized Health Care." Regardless of it however, how does "National Health Care" necessarily = Socialism? I would think the bailouts and the stimulus packages = Socialism far before any talk of Health Care, and both parties are equally guilty of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' post='1868617' date='May 16 2009, 07:35 AM']I would think the bailouts and the stimulus packages = Socialism far before any talk of Health Care, and both parties are equally guilty of this.[/quote] This is what republicans seem to ignore thou... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='Didymus' post='1868617' date='May 16 2009, 09:35 AM']I would think the bailouts and the stimulus packages = Socialism far before any talk of Health Care, and both parties are equally guilty of this.[/quote] Ya, we had that one recent president that openly stated that he tossed free market principles to the side when he called for the implementation of policies that grew government, reduced the private sector, and further integrated government with business. That socialist-leaning president was Bush. And Republicans are responsible for about 40% of the earmarks -- while at the same time blaming Dems for the earmarks. What a great big load. The fact is, they are largely the same party, with the same people pulling the strings. To me it is merely one party with two faces; all the better to pander to both sides of the political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 ...to quote Jesse Venture: When I was a wrestler, we pretended to be fighting each other but at the end of the day, we already knew whom was going to win, the real objective was to fool the public to believe we were fighting each other and that the winner wasn't pre-determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemnantRules Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 [quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1868657' date='May 16 2009, 11:34 AM']Ya, we had that one recent president that openly stated that he tossed free market principles to the side when he called for the implementation of policies that grew government, reduced the private sector, and further integrated government with business. That socialist-leaning president was Bush. And Republicans are responsible for about 40% of the earmarks -- while at the same time blaming Dems for the earmarks. What a great big load. The fact is, they are largely the same party, with the same people pulling the strings. To me it is merely one party with two faces; all the better to pander to both sides of the political spectrum.[/quote] Your exactly right on your last comment. For a while now it hasn't been about "left vs. right" both are wanting the same thing. It's more of an up and down situation if you will. It's Socialist vs. Socialist "light". They are BOTH into being Big Brother and help bailing out everything and everyone. Started with Bush and it would've continued with McCain. Instead it's continuing with Obama just seems at a quicker pace because the majority of the govt. is the same party as Obama. It's shifted from the govt. and our representatives working for us and fearing us to we fear our govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RezaMikhaeil Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 What had really Pis...wait...I can't say that..."Irritated" me...was that Repubs and Demos were telling the public "if we don't bail them out", spitting lies out their mouth and saying, "we're make them be accountable for it", which never happened, to get the public on board. Still I think that the majority in the public wasn't represented. Neither of them carred what the general public had to say. Obama and McCain were talking alot about "mainstreet", I live on mainstreet [a small town called New Richmond Wisconsin] and I don't see Obama or McCain round these parts. McCain came here [Hudson Wisconsin] once and it was an invitation only party for only women, so he could try and win the feminists over. Reza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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