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Brother Adam

There are two pillars that hold the reformation up. One is Sola Scriptura and one is Sole Fide.

Phatmass already took a bulldozer in and removed Sola Scriptura from my life....so what's this? What's happening? Shall we take a look and see?




Oh my....


It looks like Theologian in Training, Dust, Carson, Dave, phatcatholic...it looks like dynamite they are tossing around the Sole Fide Pillar.


Wait....


It's not dynamite. It's scripture verses!

But why the heck would they use scripture for sole fide?

What's this? Katie? LittleFlower? Tina? What is it you are laying down?


Kindness and charity?!

And ironmonk? That looks like Church History...

How is that going to knock down this great pillar of the reformation?


uh-oh....



[quote]let me reiterate the distinctions that must be made in order for a catholic to say "we are saved by faith alone."
1. by the word "saved" we mean "eternal life in heaven," not "justification of the spirit," which catholics believe we can lose.
2. this faith is an obedient faith. it is inseperable from good works.
3. grace is the initial catalyst as well as the motivation for this obedient faith.
4. as such, this obedient faith only "saves" if it is maintained by grace and free will until the very end. [/quote]



This can't be good...


[quote]Galatians 5:6 (ESV) 
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.  [/quote]



Umm guys....ehh....guys....ehh, thinks you better back up...


[color=green][font="Impact"]TIMBER[/color][/font]



As Winnie the Pooh said.....Oh dear me.



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I'm starting to think like my wife who said, "Adam, I have a feeling we're both going to end up Catholic".

I never expected to find Catholicism in the Bible like I am. So along with the amazing exegesis of Dr. Scott Hahn...

There's only 5 more doctrines left for me to study in depth...better get started...

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Brother Adam

[quote name='Good Friday' date='Mar 24 2004, 05:08 PM'] Adam, you're killing me. Just thought you should know. ;) [/quote]
--> Good Friday :crackup: :club: <---Adam

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Brother Adam

My wish list... hehe. I hope to read most of these books over the summer (assuming I get a job) b/f school starts.


Triumph: The Power And The Glory Of The Catholic Church
H.W. Crocker III


Pope Fiction
Patrick Madrid


How the Reformation Happened
Hilaire Belloc


Ignatius Bible - Hardcover
Ignatius Press

A Father Who Keeps His Promises
Scott Hahn

Catholic for a Reason: Scripture And The Mystery Of The Family Of God
Edited by Dr. Scott Hahn and Leon J. Suprenant, Jr

Where Is That In The Bible?
Patrick Madrid

God's Plan of Salvation: Immaculately Conceived
Scott Hahn

Faith Alone: Is It Justifiable? - Cassette Tapes
Dr. Scott Hahn

The Salvation Controversy
James Akin

Jesus, Peter & the Keys
Scott Butler, Norman Dahlgren, and Rev. Mr. David Hess

Catholicism and Fundamentalism
Karl Keating

Upon This Rock
Stephen Ray

The Usual Suspects: Answering Anti-Catholic Fundamentalists
Karl Keating

Controversies: High Level Catholic Apologetics
Karl Keating

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Brother Adam, I don't know if you've come across this website yet, but I highly suggest it. [url="http://www.catholicapologetics.net/"]http://www.catholicapologetics.net/[/url]

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You are a very amusing, somewhat Baptist, but acting universal man.... you make me laugh on a regular basis..... and bring alot of joy to my life. I have never told you before......
Peace.

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Ash Wednesday

I'm tellin' you *does the chicken neck thang*
and you started prayin' that rosary, it's like a lasso that helps make those pillars go down.
Mmmmmm Hm! *snaps fingers*

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Carson Weber

Adam, these are books I would recommend taking off of your list:

Triumph: The Power And The Glory Of The Catholic Church
H.W. Crocker III

Ignatius Bible - Hardcover
Ignatius Press

Pope Fiction
Patrick Madrid

Where Is That In The Bible?
Patrick Madrid

The Usual Suspects: Answering Anti-Catholic Fundamentalists
Karl Keating

Controversies: High Level Catholic Apologetics
Karl Keating


And I would suggest reading the others in this order:

God's Plan of Salvation: Immaculately Conceived
Scott Hahn

Faith Alone: Is It Justifiable? - Cassette Tapes
Dr. Scott Hahn

Upon This Rock
Stephen Ray

A Father Who Keeps His Promises
Scott Hahn

Catholic for a Reason: Scripture And The Mystery Of The Family Of God
Edited by Dr. Scott Hahn and Leon J. Suprenant, Jr

The Salvation Controversy
James Akin

Jesus, Peter & the Keys
Scott Butler, Norman Dahlgren, and Rev. Mr. David Hess

Catholicism and Fundamentalism
Karl Keating

How the Reformation Happened
Hilaire Belloc

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Thy Geekdom Come

[quote] Adam, these are books I would recommend taking off of your list:[/quote]

And I would recommend keeping them on. Sure, Crocker and Madrid can be somewhat cynical, but their facts are straight and Adam is a big boy.

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Laudate_Dominum

[quote name='Carson Weber' date='Mar 25 2004, 12:16 AM'] Adam, these are books I would recommend taking off of your list:

Triumph: The Power And The Glory Of The Catholic Church
H.W. Crocker III

[b]Ignatius Bible - Hardcover
Ignatius Press [/b]

Pope Fiction
Patrick Madrid

Where Is That In The Bible?
Patrick Madrid

The Usual Suspects: Answering Anti-Catholic Fundamentalists
Karl Keating

Controversies: High Level Catholic Apologetics
Karl Keating
[/quote]
Aha! Proof that Catholics condemn reading the Bible! ;)

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Good Friday

[quote][b]Adam writes:[/b]
Ignatius Bible - Hardcover
Ignatius Press[/quote]
The [i]whole[/i] thing???

And Carson, why did you recommend he take this off his list?

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