Brother Adam Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 There are two pillars that hold the reformation up. One is Sola Scriptura and one is Sole Fide. Phatmass already took a bulldozer in and removed Sola Scriptura from my life....so what's this? What's happening? Shall we take a look and see? Oh my.... It looks like Theologian in Training, Dust, Carson, Dave, phatcatholic...it looks like dynamite they are tossing around the Sole Fide Pillar. Wait.... It's not dynamite. It's scripture verses! But why the heck would they use scripture for sole fide? What's this? Katie? LittleFlower? Tina? What is it you are laying down? Kindness and charity?! And ironmonk? That looks like Church History... How is that going to knock down this great pillar of the reformation? uh-oh.... [quote]let me reiterate the distinctions that must be made in order for a catholic to say "we are saved by faith alone." 1. by the word "saved" we mean "[b]eternal life in heaven[/b]," not "justification of the spirit," which catholics believe we can lose. 2. this faith is an [b]obedient faith[/b]. it is inseperable from good works. 3. grace is the [b]initial catalyst [/b]as well as the motivation for this obedient faith. 4. as such, this obedient faith only "saves" if it is maintained by grace and free will until the very end.[/quote] This can't be good... [quote]Galatians 5:6 (ESV) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only [b]faith working through love[/b]. [/quote] Umm guys....ehh....guys....ehh, thinks you better back up... [font="Impact"][color=green] TIMBER[/color][/font] As Winnie the Pooh said.....Oh dear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Brother Adam gets yet another high five! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 (edited) I'm starting to think like my wife who said, "Adam, I have a feeling we're both going to end up Catholic". I never expected to find Catholicism in the Bible like I am. So along with the amazing exegesis of Dr. Scott Hahn... There's only 5 more doctrines left for me to study in depth...better get started... Edited March 24, 2004 by Brother Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 May I use this line in phatmass promotional materials? [i]"Phatmass already took a bulldozer in and removed Sola Scriptura from my life..."[/i] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='Mar 24 2004, 05:53 PM'] May I use this line in phatmass promotional materials? [i]"Phatmass already took a bulldozer in and removed Sola Scriptura from my life..."[/i] lol [/quote] LOL yeah, that is a good line Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Oh btw Adam, it seems what you and your wife are going through is similar to what I've went through. Only I wasn't baptist, more of a mix of different denominations (but leaning more towards Pentecostalism). And it wasn't that long ago too, I started my spiritual journey towards Catholicism in January 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Friday Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Have I mentioned lately how amazing you people are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 (edited) Adam, my prayers are with you and your wife ... I went through much the same thought process myself not so very long ago. I love that you are being so open about your thought process. I know it has helped me think through some things more thoroughly, and I'm sure that's true of others here as well. God bless you both! Edited March 24, 2004 by Sojourner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennC Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 [quote]"Adam, I have a feeling we're both going to end up Catholic". [/quote] ... and I'm waiting to read the book about it, .. it should be some good reading. Peace of Christ, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='Mar 24 2004, 04:53 PM'] May I use this line in phatmass promotional materials? [i]"Phatmass already took a bulldozer in and removed Sola Scriptura from my life..."[/i] lol [/quote] Only if I get a free copy. yeah...go ahead. I love seeing Protestants shoot flaming arrows at my name. hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I just want to thank Brother Adam, I am going through RCIA right now and approaching the Easter Vigil going to first confession tonight. His journey has helped me reflect upon my own and gained greater understanding into the truths taught by our Holy Apostolic Church. I come from a protestant bacground as well and so the journey has had its fair trials but i know now without hardly any shadow of a doubt i have made the right decision. So thanks Bro Adam...and also others like Phat Catholics and all phatmassers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 24 2004, 04:44 PM'] There's only 5 more doctrines left for me to study in depth...better get started... [/quote] i'm ready when you are, brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 If a tree falls in the middle of a forest with no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I'm praying for you guys. (Even if that doesn't mean conversion any time soon. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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