Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 In the Byzantine Churches one receives the consecrated bread and wine together on a golden spoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1825975' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:44 PM']In the Byzantine Churches one receives the consecrated bread and wine together on a golden spoon.[/quote] (Which is very cool.) Do you have any pictures of this? I can't picture what it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1825978' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:46 PM'](Which is very cool.) Do you have any pictures of this? I can't picture what it looks like.[/quote] [img]http://www.geocities.com/theomimesis/communion.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1826045' date='Apr 6 2009, 12:13 AM'][img]http://www.geocities.com/theomimesis/communion.jpg[/img][/quote] Interesting. Thanks. How is the Body distributed? Doesn't look like the sorts of wafers that we use would fit on that spoon there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1826052' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:16 PM']Interesting. Thanks. How is the Body distributed? Doesn't look like the sorts of wafers that we use would fit on that spoon there.[/quote] The Byzantine Churches do not use unleavened "wafers"; instead, we use leavened bread that is cut into cubes by the priest during the prothesis (a.k.a., the proskomedia). Edited April 6, 2009 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I always receive under both species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='cappie' post='1826087' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:30 PM']I always receive under both species [/quote] Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Cat Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='The Bus Station' post='1825665' date='Apr 5 2009, 09:15 PM']Yes, I did think about this when I was making the thread title but [u][b]I hoped people would catch my drift[/b][/u]. I appreciate it though![/quote]I think they did, don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1825644' date='Apr 5 2009, 06:41 PM']Imho, that is pretty lame. ... Their mandate is to translate, not interpret.[/quote] In the dictionary I use, all the definitions of "chalice" involve the word "cup." I see no problem with translators choosing to translate into a word that is commonly used. The whole point of translating in the vernacular was to translate the Mass into words that everyday people could understand, and to make the meaning of the Mass accessible to the common person. It avoids confusion, so the focus can be on the reality of what's happening rather than on the use of uncommon terms. I think one can communicate reverence using the term The Cup just as clearly as with using the term The Chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Sometimes. I don't if I'm ill, obviously. [quote name='Luigi' post='1825799' date='Apr 6 2009, 03:42 AM']I know some Protestant denominations have Communion Sunday (maybe once a month?) and they have wine or grape juice on those days, but the friend I'm thinking of told me each member was given his/her own little tiny wine glass. It sounded "cute" and also a little paranoid; I controlled myself and didn't laugh.[/quote] Yes, that is how it was done at the Southern Baptist congregation I attended, and a Lutheran congregation I once visited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 While that thinking has held sway in the ICEL and in Rome for many years (and I'm not condemning you for it, it certainly has some valid points behind its argumentation especially on a minor point such as the term "cup" vs. "chalice" which is not all that different), but Rome and the International Commission on the English Liturgy now disagree with you there, my friend. The new English translation, set to start in either Liturgical year '10 or '11, uses the term "chalice" in all four Eucharistic prayers... see for yourself: [url="http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformation/RomanCanon.pdf"]http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformation/RomanCanon.pdf[/url] [url="http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformation/EuchPrayerII.pdf"]http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformati...uchPrayerII.pdf[/url] [url="http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformation/EuchPrayerIII.pdf"]http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformati...chPrayerIII.pdf[/url] [url="http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformation/EuchPrayerIV.pdf"]http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/missalformati...uchPrayerIV.pdf[/url] This translation is in response to the new norms of liturgical translation set forth in the document [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20010507_liturgiam-authenticam_en.html"]Liturgiam authenticam [/url] (<click to read it) from number 43: [quote]It should be borne in mind that a literal translation of terms which may initially sound odd in a vernacular language may for this very reason provoke inquisitiveness in the hearer and provide an occasion for catechesis.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Rarely. In most of the countries where I find myself the Precious Blood is not given at Communion; if I'm in the UK I think I usually do, depending on the situation. And as has been stated, the Precious Blood isn't distributed at the usus antiquior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsconditaInDeo Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I almost always do, but it's only because my sister is usually in front of me and she receives the Precious Blood so I just follow her and do the same. I personally don't like that my parish always has the Precious Blood available at every mass for the laity. I think it causes the people to feel that they're not receiving all of Jesus unless they receive Him under both forms. And also the parish that I usually go to has many EMHCs and I really can't stand it. Many of them have gotten used to being on the alter and so they don't bow or genuflect before coming onto the alter or when they walk past the tabernacle and it bothers me sooooooooooooooooooooo much When I'm not with my sister or when I have a bit of time on my hands to drive a distance, I go to a more conservative parish for daily mass that doesn't have EMHCs and no one drinks from the chalice but rather the Body is dipped into the Blood and everyone receives while kneeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='cappie' post='1826087' date='Apr 6 2009, 01:30 AM']I always receive under both species [/quote] Cheeky, Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 My parish doesnt offer the blood. And whenever I go to a church that does, I dont drink it. Dunno why...have nothing against it obviously...I just prefer not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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