How Often Do You Receive The Precious Blood?

[Sojourner]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1825589' date='Apr 5 2009, 06:28 PM']I have this pet peeve, where I can't stand when people say "cup."

I knew a priest who was there when they did the translation ...according to him, they mistranslated "on purpose" ... they chose "cup" even though they knew it was the wrong word, because they thought "chalice" was overly majestic and not down-homey enough, and it would make people uncomfortable.

Cup is for coffee, Chalice is for Precious Blood.[/quote]
Maybe you should talk to St. Matthew about that. Or St. Luke. Or rather, the translators for 99 percent of English translations of Scripture out there, in addition, of course, to the translators for the Mass.

I take from the cup when it is offered. It is not offered at every parish we attend.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Terra Firma

[Mr.Cat]

[center][img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9NNc1xDXaO0/RquypEwlU6I/AAAAAAAABDo/IAYN8pnRBYw/s400/zzaintinct.jpg[/img][/center][b]This isn't meant as criticism[/b]; but it might be more accurately asked how often does one receives from the chalice or the species of wine. Since one always receives the “[i]Total Christ[/i]” in Holy Communion, regardless of what species one receives. This is being a bit picky, yes, but I wanted to make the comment since I put “[i][b]rarely[/b][/i]”.

[i][b]Rarely[/b][/i] because recently I have been going to the Extraordinary Form ([i]Missal of Blessed Pope John XXIII[/i]) more frequently and often, but I do miss receiving both species, and on occasion I do seek it out.

[i]Personally[/i] I would like to see “[i]Intinction[/i]” introduced into the Extraordinary Form ([i]Missal of Blessed Pope John XXIII[/i]) on special occasions; similar to how I see a local Anglican Use Personal Parish do it.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Mr.CatholicCat

[Lilllabettt]

[quote name='Terra Firma' post='1825629' date='Apr 5 2009, 09:14 PM']Maybe you should talk to St. Matthew about that. Or St. Luke. Or rather, the translators for 99 percent of English translations of Scripture out there, in addition, of course, to the translators for the Mass.

I take from the cup when it is offered. It is not offered at every parish we attend.[/quote]

Okay, this is off-topic. I apologize for taking it off-topic, its my fault, I made the first post.

The original Greek is kalyx. The Latin is calyx. The English translation of both those terms is "chalice." That's what the actual translation is. No getting around that reality.

There was a deliberate choice NOT to use the actual translation and go with "cup" instead. And the motivation behind that choice was, frankly, lame.

Perhaps the people who produced the modern translations of the Bible had similar rationale. "No one knows what a chalice is." "They can relate to 'cup'."

Imho, that is pretty lame.

The priest who told me about this, I knew him for years. He is 93 and was present at the creation (of the translation.) He is an expert in this area and continues to advise ICEL. He says there is a new version coming which (so far) is designed to restore the authenticity of the translation. Their mandate is to translate, not interpret.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Lilllabettt

[Slappo]

[quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1825644' date='Apr 5 2009, 05:41 PM']Their mandate is to translate, not interpret.[/quote]

amen!

[MStar]

I always receive under both when both are available. I don't really understand why the reception of the Blood would be limited, Jesus gave both at the Last Supper, so why not have both? Besides, some people have wheat allergies and making the Blood available allows them to be able to receive Christ.

[The Bus Station]

[quote name='Mr.CatholicCat' post='1825637' date='Apr 5 2009, 08:33 PM'][center][img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9NNc1xDXaO0/RquypEwlU6I/AAAAAAAABDo/IAYN8pnRBYw/s400/zzaintinct.jpg[/img][/center][b]This isn't meant as criticism[/b]; but it might be more accurately asked how often does one receives from the chalice or the species of wine. Since one always receives the “[i]Total Christ[/i]” in Holy Communion, regardless of what species one receives. This is being a bit picky, yes, but I wanted to make the comment since I put “[i][b]rarely[/b][/i]”.[/quote]

Yes, I did think about this when I was making the thread title but I hoped people would catch my drift. I appreciate it though!

[BG45]

I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.

[Luigi]

[quote name='BG45' post='1825789' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:36 PM']I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.[/quote]

I know some Protestant denominations have Communion Sunday (maybe once a month?) and they have wine or grape juice on those days, but the friend I'm thinking of told me each member was given his/her own little tiny wine glass. It sounded "cute" and also a little paranoid; I controlled myself and didn't laugh.

[Nihil Obstat]

I always feel rushed and uncomfortable when I did. Now I haven't in quite a few years.
At this point it's more out of habit than anything. I'll probably start recieving the Blood eventually.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
rarely.

[eagle_eye222001]

[quote name='rose wrought of iron' post='1825609' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:39 PM']I used to, but then I got sick and have since stopped. [/quote]

Yeah,......what I'm worried about. All it takes is one sick person.

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[quote name='MissyP89' post='1825618' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:48 PM']I never have...I don't drink red wine, and have a tendency to make an awful face no matter how hard I try to suppress it. I'd rather not take it before risking looking irreverent and immature. [/quote]

You should have seen me on my First Communion day. I was home schooled and did it by myself and had never practiced with real hosts or had red wine. I almost didn't make it.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='BG45' post='1825789' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:36 PM']I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.[/quote]

Right on. Welcome home.

They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.

[Paladin D]

When I go up for Communion, I always consume both. I don't see anything wrong in it, afterall, "the twelve" received both at the Last Supper. I refrain from it only if I'm sick. I don't think it's very considerate to spread germs through the chalice (not the Precious Blood mind you).

I did notice that in one particular parish in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, only the priests consumed the Precious Blood. This was a Novus Ordo Mass, so I'm curious if it was a protocol set by Cardinal Justin Rigali, or something else. [b]Note:[/b] This was the only parish I've attended Mass within the diocese, so I don't know if it's diocesian wide.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Paladin D

[Aloysius]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1825907' date='Apr 6 2009, 12:41 AM'] Right on. Welcome home.

They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.[/quote]
, restricted the way it was in 1967 by [url="http://www.adoremus.org/eucharisticummysterium.html"]Eucharisticum Mysterium[/url] (quote posted on page 1)!

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Brother Adam' post='1825907' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:41 PM'] Right on. Welcome home.

They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.[/quote]
It would be so awesome to find a parish that had no EMHCs. I'm thinking along the lines of either multiple priests concelebrating or a whole corps of deacons.
I'd switch parishes, I think. Although I do love our current priest.....