Hillary Clinton

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='lost_in_this_world' post='1821147' date='Mar 31 2009, 04:13 PM']if you are referring to the topic's title, that is where i wrote stupidity yes. and i stand by it. i didn't necessarily call her stupid but she did a stupid act. can i not call her out on that one?[/quote]

She is corrupt to the core and lives her life in a moral cesspool. There plenty to call her out on. But not this, no. AT LEAST SHE WAS THERE.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1821294' date='Mar 31 2009, 06:35 PM']are ya sure about the ransom, I mean the paying part...[/quote]

Hey, I'm always good for a quarter for important collections.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1821062' date='Mar 31 2009, 12:03 PM']We are all quite happy she came face to face with a painting by a saint, but I think the general point is her staff is doing a lousy job of preparing her for her jaunts, just as they did a terrible job dealing with the gifts for the Brits.[/quote]

That's fine and in any other case I would steadfastly agree. But I'm having a big problem with Catholics making fun of a woman for visiting a Basilica. It wasn't an official visit and it had nothing to do with her political role. So she messed up. Whoopty-do.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1821399' date='Mar 31 2009, 08:33 PM']It wasn't an official visit and it had nothing to do with her political role.[/quote]
EVERYTHING a politician does, especially one with as prolific as Mrs. Clinton, has to do with his political role. A politician of her caliber doesn't do anything that doesn't directly relate to his political career.

[Veridicus]

[quote name='apparently' post='1821270' date='Mar 31 2009, 05:58 PM']Perhaps Secretary of State Hillary Clinton action was deliberate to appease her base and the Planned Parenthood Federation of America – for her gala event in Houston, Texas to receive the Margaret Sanger Award, the following day.[/quote]

Nothing says "budding Marian devotion" like a Margaret Sanger Award...

[Saint Therese]

OL of Guadelupe is Patroness of the Unborn.
Hillary looks at the tilma one day and recieves the Sanger award the next.
The more I think about it, the more I think it was deliberate.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Saint Therese' post='1821541' date='Mar 31 2009, 10:43 PM']OL of Guadelupe is Patroness of the Unborn.
Hillary looks at the tilma one day and recieves the Sanger award the next.
The more I think about it, the more I think it was deliberate.[/quote]
I'm not going to speculate, but it is a revolting coincidence.

[Madame Vengier]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1821474' date='Mar 31 2009, 11:39 PM']EVERYTHING a politician does, especially one with as prolific as Mrs. Clinton, has to do with his political role. A politician of her caliber doesn't do anything that doesn't directly relate to his political career.[/quote]


That doesn't excuse the fact that numerous Catholics in this thread are taking great joy in mocking and deriding someone for what may have been an honest mistake, while in other threads lecturing others about Christian charity and compassion. It seems to send the message that charity and compassion are only for those you feel deserve it.

[VoTeckam]

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[VoTeckam]

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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the Obama administration has indeed [b]abandoned the term "global war on terror.[/b]"
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boy, that was a close on. it over?[/i] i will sleep better now that the badies have give up!

[Archaeology cat]

[url="http://catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15575"]Article[/url]

[quote]Washington D.C., Apr 2, 2009 / 01:25 pm (CNA).- In an impassionate address to the House of Representatives on Tuesday, Congressmen Chris Smith (R-NJ,) argued that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe and the speech delivered immediately after, in Houston, Texas, during Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award were completely inexcusable.

Smith said that Clinton’s visit to the Catholic Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City, where she presented a bouquet of flowers on behalf of the American people, was “a very nice gesture.”

But the gesture was at odds with her speech while receiving the Margaret Sanger Award.

“In her remarks, Secretary Clinton said she was ‘in awe’ --I repeat, ‘in awe’-- of Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood.”

“To our distinguished Secretary of State, I respectfully ask: Are you kidding? In ‘awe’ of Margaret Sanger, who said in 1921, ‘Eugenics…is the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political, and social problems’ and who also said in 1922, ‘The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it’?” asked Congressman Smith.

He went on to say that Secretary Clinton in her speech said that Margaret Sanger's “life and leadership” was “one of the most transformational in the entire history of the human race.”

“Mr. Speaker, transformational, yes. But not for the better if one happens to be poor, disenfranchised, weak, a person of color, vulnerable, or among the many so-called undesirables who Sanger would exclude and exterminate from the human race.”

According to the New Jersey Representative, “the juxtaposition of last week's two very public events in Mexico City and in Houston bring into sharp focus two huge and irreconcilable world views.”

“On the one hand, the miracle of Our Lady of Guadalupe has for five centuries brought a message of hope, faith, peace, reconciliation and protection for the weakest, most vulnerable among us. On the other hand, each year, Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood kills approximately 300,000 unborn baby girls and boys in their abortion clinics scattered throughout the United States,” he added.

After briefly narrating the story of the apparitions of Our Lady of Guadalupe, Smith continued: “last Thursday, Hillary Clinton visited the shrine. On Friday, she paid homage to Planned Parenthood and to Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was a self-described pro-abortionist eugenist and a racist who considered charity care for impoverished, disenfranchised women, including women of color, especially pregnant women, to be ‘cruel’.”

Smith extensively quoted little known, terrifying passages of Sanger’s writings, loaded with racism and contempt for the poor.

“The most serious charge that can be brought against modern benevolence is that it encourages, and I say this again, the perpetuation of defectives, delinquents, and dependents,” was one of Sanger’s statement quoted by the NJ representative.

“Which begs the question, Mr. Speaker. Is our Secretary of State unaware of Margaret Sanger’s inhumane beliefs? Was she not briefed on Margaret Sanger’s cruel and reckless disregard for poor, pregnant women? Respectfully, Secretary Clinton should at a minimum return the Sanger award.”

“More importantly,” continued Smith “Congress and the White House must at long last take a long, hard, second look at the multimillion, almost billion, dollar corporation called Planned Parenthood – Child Abuse Incorporated.”

“There is nothing whatsoever compassionate, benevolent, ennobling, benign, or empowering about abortion. It is a violation of a child's fundamental human rights.”

“I strongly urge my colleagues to take that second look at Planned Parenthood. It is time to respect the value and the dignity of all human life,” he concluded.[/quote]

[Madame Vengier]

Hillary is corrupt to the core and morally depraved, we know that. I still think that her visit to the Shrine was an oppurtunity for grace.

As an aside, wasn't Sanger the one who disappeard years ago and it was rumored that she was murdered?

Edited April 4, 2009 by Madame Vengier

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1824303' date='Apr 4 2009, 12:10 PM']Hillary is corrupt to the core and morally depraved, we know that. I still think that her visit to the Shrine was an oppurtunity for grace.[/quote]
Oh yes, I agree. I pray that Mary brings Hillary to her Son.

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1824303' date='Apr 4 2009, 12:10 PM']As an aside, wasn't Sanger the one who disappeard years ago and it was rumored that she was murdered?[/quote]
I have no idea.
ETA: According to Wiki she died in 1966.

Edited April 4, 2009 by Archaeology cat