ardillacid Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1815383' date='Mar 24 2009, 03:08 AM']And can it be justified that one is relying on "a smoke" to make one more relaxed. Perhaps this only applies to those that are addicted (which the Aloysius says he is not).[/quote] I smoke cigars, pipes, and hookahs, but have no addiction/craving either. They are not like cigarettes at all in that sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1815352' date='Mar 24 2009, 01:15 AM']ewww you smoke?[/quote] He used to poo in a bucket in his dorm room. I think a pipe is an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntingknight Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Ever tried to take a piece of paper and roll it up and then smoke that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCid Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Yes, most smoke has carcinogens in it (I want to say all, but there is always that one exception to the rule somewhere). How is it compared to tobacco? No clue. I have heard pipes with tobacco are worse then cigarettes in that aspect... but with tea? No clue. Edited March 24, 2009 by CatholicCid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1815406' date='Mar 24 2009, 08:07 AM']He used to poo in a bucket in his dorm room. I think a pipe is an improvement. [/quote] never gonna live that one down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='CatholicCid' post='1815412' date='Mar 24 2009, 09:40 AM']Yes, most smoke has carcinogens in it (I want to say all, but there is always that one exception to the rule somewhere). How is it compared to tobacco? No clue. I have heard pipes with tobacco are worse then cigarettes in that aspect... but with tea? No clue.[/quote] pipes with tobacco are better or worse than cigarettes depending on how one smokes them; one is not supposed to inhale a pipe but merely puff it (the smoke is heavier and so, if inhaled, would be worse than inhaled cigarette smoke to some degree)... pipe tobacco does not have the same types of chemicals added to it that cigarettes do, there is no rat poison or fiberglass, just tobacco and oftentimes some flavoring. studies have been done which have shown no increase in mortality rates for those who smoke pipes moderately and do not inhale... pipes are, on the whole, much better than cigarettes in nearly all respects when smoked properly; from health to the cultural context surrounding them. and as regards the vanity thing? all forms of self expression are not necessarily vanity; I do not like the way it makes me look to others, I like the way it expresses myself. the same way I like my hat as an expression of myself. come now, we are not puritans here, we are Catholics. and the G.K. Chesterton thing was just trying to answer from where I got the idea to smoke a pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 [url="http://www.reason.com/news/show/29471.html"]http://www.reason.com/news/show/29471.html[/url] [quote]An article in the Summer 1990 issue of The Compleat Smoker describes an interesting longevity study conducted in Pennsylvania during the late '60s and early '70s. An organization called No Other World performed the research[b] with the assistance of the Northwestern Pennsylvania Lung Association and regional chapters of the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association[/b]. "In the study," reports The Compleat Smoker, "pipe smokers attained an average age of 78--two years older than their non-smoking male counterparts." This may say something about the stress-reducing benefits of pipe smoking. At the very least, it suggests that moderate pipe smoking is not a significant health hazard.[/quote] this particular study singled out moderate pipe smokers who do not inhale; I know of no other study since which has singled out this factors, but this particular study was done in conjunction with the American Cancer Society and was not just some willy nilly thing; I do not believe the extra longevity to be necessarily indicative of health benefits, per se, since there's such a small margin for error, but I do know that stress kills an awful lot of people and pipe smoking is a very relaxing and enjoyable thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 anyway, as I said, I've had plenty of smoking debates here, you can do a search if you're interested in such a debate... here I want to discuss what anyone knows about the nature of peppermint leaves and chamomile smoked in a pipe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCid Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1815449' date='Mar 24 2009, 10:49 AM']pipes with tobacco are better or worse than cigarettes depending on how one smokes them; one is not supposed to inhale a pipe but merely puff it (the smoke is heavier and so, if inhaled, would be worse than inhaled cigarette smoke to some degree)... pipe tobacco does not have the same types of chemicals added to it that cigarettes do, there is no rat poison or fiberglass, just tobacco and oftentimes some flavoring. studies have been done which have shown no increase in mortality rates for those who smoke pipes moderately and do not inhale... pipes are, on the whole, much better than cigarettes in nearly all respects when smoked properly; from health to the cultural context surrounding them.[/quote] I was including inhalation, as some people do inhale (except Clinton) Anyway, I didn't want to debate, just answering the question on if smoke has carcinogens in it (and it does, regardless of the cause of the smoke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommas_boy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1815347' date='Mar 24 2009, 12:06 AM']Probably still an increased risk of mouth cancer, on the health side of it. On the cool side of things, you're awesome. In my life I've only ever seen people smoking pipes in public twice. I'll never do it, but I'll say this: it's preferable to that cigarette smell. How about trying to smoke incense? I'm only half kidding. Or one-third.[/quote] I smoke a pipe from time to time. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 [url="http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/smoking/smoke7.html"]http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/smoking/smoke7.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It would burn a lot hotter, as tea would be dry, while tobacco has some moisture in it. It might crack your pipe--try it in a corn cob one first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 [quote name='T-Bone _' post='1816256' date='Mar 25 2009, 01:12 PM']It would burn a lot hotter, as tea would be dry, while tobacco has some moisture in it. It might crack your pipe--try it in a corn cob one first.[/quote] You could steam the tea bags first. Might even release a bit more flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Joe Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Have you tried smoking: bacon salmon coagulated milk turkey chicken pork brisket vegetables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 When I was in high school, I stuck a wad of coffee in my lip. "Dipping" coffee gave me a huge caffeine buzz. As I recall, it was like drinking half a pot of coffee in one sitting. Never did it again though. It made my heart race like crazy. But that would be an alternative to tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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