cmotherofpirl Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Geneva, March 11, 2009 — A new U.N. resolution circulated today by Islamic states would define any questioning of Islamic dogma as a human rights violation, intimidate dissenting voices, and encourage the forced imposition of Sharia law. (See full U.N. text below.) UN Watch obtained a copy of the Pakistani-authored proposal after it was distributed today among Geneva diplomats attending the current session of the UN Human Rights Council. Entitled "Combating defamation of religions," it mentions only Islam. While non-binding, the resolution constitutes a dangerous threat to free speech everywhere. It would ban any perceived offense to Islamic sensitivities as a "serious affront to human dignity" and a violation of religious freedom, and would pressure U.N. member states -- at the "local, national, regional and international levels" -- to erode free speech guarantees in their "legal and constitutional systems." It's an Orwellian text that distorts the meaning of human rights, free speech, and religious freedom, and marks a giant step backwards for liberty and democracy worldwide. The first to suffer will be moderate Muslims in the countries that are behind this resolution, like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan, who seek international legitimacy for state-sanctioned blasphemy laws that stifle religious freedom and outlaw conversions from Islam to other faiths. Next to suffer from this U.N.-sanctioned McCarthyism will be writers and journalists in the democratic West, with the resolution targeting the media for the "deliberate stereotyping of religions, their adherents and sacred persons." Ultimately, it is the very notion of individual human rights at stake, because the sponsors of this resolution seek not to protect individuals from harm, but rather to shield a specific set of beliefs from any question, debate, or critical inquiry. The resolution's core premise -- that "defamation of religion" exists as legal concept -- is a distortion. The law on defamation protects the reputations of individuals, not beliefs. It also requires an examination of the truth or falsity of the challenged remarks -- a determination that no one, especially not the UN, is capable of undertaking concerning any religion. Tragically, given that Islamic states completely dominate the Human Rights Council, with the support of non-democratic members like Russia, China, and Cuba, adoption of the regressive resolution is a forgone conclusion. E.U. diplomats hope at best to win over a handful of wavering Latin American states to the dissenting side. Following is a copy of the draft U.N. Human Rights Council resolution obtained by UN Watch. Prepared by Pakistan on behalf of the Islamic group, the text was circulated today to Geneva diplomats in advance of a council vote scheduled for the end of March. Emphasis added. Human Rights Council Resolution A/HRC/10/L.. Combating Defamation of Religions The Human Rights Council, Reaffirming the pledge made by all States, under the Charter of the United Nations, to promote and encourage universal respect for and observance of all human rights and fundamental freedoms without distinction as to race, sex, language or religion, Reaffirming also that all human rights are universal, indivisible, interdependent and interrelated, Recalling the 2005 World Summit Outcome adopted by the General Assembly in its resolution 60/1 of 24 October 2005, in which the Assembly emphasized the responsibilities of all States, in conformity with the Charter of the United Nations, to respect human rights and fundamental freedoms for all, without distinction of any kind and acknowledged the importance of respect and understanding for religious and cultural diversity throughout the world, Recognizing the valuable contribution of all religions to modern civilization and the contribution that dialogue among civilizations can make towards improved awareness and understanding of the common values shared by all humankind, Welcoming the resolve expressed in the United Nations Millennium Declaration adopted by the General Assembly on 8 September 20006 to take measures to eliminate the increasing acts of racism and xenophobia in many societies and to promote greater harmony and tolerance in all societies, and looking forward to its effective implementation at all levels, Underlining in this regard the importance of the Durban Declaration and Programme of Action adopted by the World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance, held in Durban, South Africa, in 2001, welcoming the progress achieved in implementing them, and emphasizing that they constitute a solid foundation for the elimination of all scourges and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, Welcoming all international and regional initiatives to promote cross-cultural and interfaith harmony, including the Alliance of Civilizations and the International Dialogue on Interfaith Cooperation and their valuable efforts towards the promotion of a culture of peace and dialogue at all levels, Welcoming further the reports of the Special Rapporteur submitted to the Council at its fourth, sixth and ninth sessions that highlight the serious nature of the defamation of all religions and the need to complement legal strategies; Noting with deep concern the instances of intolerance, discrimination and acts of violence against followers of certain faiths, occurring in many parts of the world, in addition to the negative projection of certain religions in the media and the introduction and enforcement of laws and administrative measures that specifically discriminate against and target persons with certain ethnic and religious backgrounds, particularly Muslim minorities following the events of 11 September 2001, and that threaten to impede their full enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms, Stressing that defamation of religions is a serious affront to human dignity leading to restriction on the freedom of religion of their adherents and incitement to religious hatred and violence, Noting with concern that defamation of religions, and incitement to religious hatred in general, could lead to social disharmony and violations of human rights, and alarmed at the inaction of some States to combat this burgeoning trend and the resulting discriminatory practices against adherents of certain religions and in this context stressing the need to effectively combat defamation of all religions and incitement to religious hatred in general and against Islam and Muslims in particular, Convinced that respect for cultural, ethnic, religious and linguistic diversity, as well as dialogue among and within civilizations, is essential for global peace and understanding while manifestations of cultural and ethnic prejudice, religious intolerance and xenophobia generate hatred and violence among peoples and nations, Underlining the important role of education in the promotion of tolerance, which involves acceptance by the public of and its respect for diversity, Noting various regional and national initiatives to combat religious and racial intolerance against specific groups and communities and emphasizing, in this context, the need to adopt a comprehensive and non-discriminatory approach to ensure respect for all races and religions, Recalling its resolution 7/19 of 27 March 2008 and UNGA resolution 63/154 of 18 December 2008, 1. Takes note of the report of the High Commissioner on the compilation of existing legislation and jurisprudence concerning defamation of and contempt of religions and the report of the Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance presented during the 9th session of the Human Rights Council; 2. Expresses deep concern at the negative stereotyping and defamation of religions and manifestations of intolerance and discrimination in matters of religion or belief, still evident in the world, which have led to intolerance against the followers of these religions; 3. Strongly deplores all acts of psychological and physical violence and assaults, and incitement thereto, against persons on the basis of their religion or belief, and such acts directed against their businesses, properties, cultural centres and places of worship, as well as targeting of holy sites, religious symbols and venerated personalities of all religions; 4. Expresses deep concern at the continued serious instances of deliberate stereotyping of religions, their adherents and sacred persons in the media, as well as programmes and agendas pursued by extremist organizations and groups aimed at creating and perpetuating stereotypes about certain religions, in particular when condoned by Governments; 5. Notes with deep concern the intensification of the overall campaign of defamation of religions, and incitement to religious hatred in general, including the ethnic and religious profiling of Muslim minorities in the aftermath of the tragic events of 11 September 2001; ) 6. Recognizes that, in the context of the fight against terrorism, defamation of religions, and incitement to religious hatred in general have, become aggravating factors that contribute to the denial of fundamental rights and freedoms of members of target groups, as well as to their economic and social exclusion; 7. Expresses deep concern in this respect that Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism and in this regard regrets the laws or administrative measures specifically designed to control and monitor Muslim minorities, thereby stigmatizing them and legitimizing the discrimination they experience; 8. Deplores the use of the print, audio-visual and electronic media, including the Internet, and any other means to incite acts of violence, xenophobia or related intolerance and discrimination towards any religion, as well as targeting of religious symbols and venerated persons; 9. Emphasizes that, as stipulated in international human rights law including articles 19 and 29 of UDHR and 19 and 20 of ICCPR, everyone has the right to hold opinions without interference, and has the right to freedom of expression, the exercise of which carries with it special duties and responsibilities and may therefore be subject to limitations as are provided for by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or reputations of others, protection of national security or of public order, public health or morals, and general welfare; 10. Reaffirms that General Comment 15 of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, in which the Committee stipulated that the prohibition of the dissemination of all ideas based upon racial superiority or hatred is compatible with freedom of opinion and expression, is equally applicable to the question of incitement to religious hatred; 11. Strongly condemns all manifestations and acts of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance against national or ethnic, religious and linguistic minorities and migrants and the stereotypes often applied to them, including on the basis of religion or belief, and urges all States to apply and, where required, reinforce existing laws when such xenophobic or intolerant acts, manifestations or expressions occur, in order to deny impunity for those who commit such acts; 12. Urges all States to provide, within their respective legal and constitutional systems, adequate protection against acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from defamation of religions, and incitement to religious hatred in general, and to take all possible measures to promote tolerance and respect for all religions and beliefs; 13. Underscores the need to combat defamation of religions, and incitement to religious hatred in general, by strategizing and harmonizing actions at the local, national, regional and international levels through education and awareness building; 14. Calls upon all States to exert the utmost efforts, in accordance with their national legislation and in conformity with international human rights and humanitarian law, to ensure that religious places, sites, shrines and symbols are fully respected and protected, and to take additional measures in cases where they are vulnerable to desecration or destruction; 15. Calls for strengthening international efforts to foster a global dialogue for the promotion of a culture of tolerance and peace at all levels, based on respect for human rights and diversity of religions and beliefs, and urges States, non-governmental organizations, religious leaders as well as the print and electronic media to support and foster such a dialogue; 16. Appreciates the High Commissioner for Human Rights for holding a seminar on freedom of expression and advocacy of religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence in October 2008, and requests her to continue to build on this initiative, with a view to concretely contributing to the prevention and elimination of all such forms of incitement and the consequences of negative stereotyping of religions or beliefs, and their adherents, on the human rights of those individuals and their communities; 17. Requests the Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance to report on all manifestations of defamation of religions, and in particular on the serious implications of Islamophobia, on the enjoyment of all rights by their followers, to the Council during its 12th Session; 18. Requests the High Commissioner for Human Rights to report to the Council at its 12th Session on the implementation of the present resolution, including on the possible correlation between defamation of religions and the upsurge in incitement, intolerance and hatred in many parts of the world. Date: 3/11/2009 [url="http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1285603&content_id={AF491436-ED3D-46F5-8CC4-E14577482787}¬oc=1"]http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/con...87}¬oc=1[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) But why would a nominally religious despotic regime with largely religious citizens who feel Islam is disrespected and threatened by the godless west put forth an asinine resolution with less than a snow ball's chance in heck of actually being passed? The Sultan finds this curious Edited March 18, 2009 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I don't think (hopefully) that it will pass this time around. But the problem is that such a bill is getting media time. And the plausibility of the concept is going to be spread around. Then someday (probably in the not too distance future) a bill like it will come up again, and maybe again and again until it does have a good shot at being passed. who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1810437' date='Mar 18 2009, 01:56 AM']I don't think (hopefully) that it will pass this time around. But the problem is that such a bill is getting media time. And the plausibility of the concept is going to be spread around. Then someday (probably in the not too distance future) a bill like it will come up again, and maybe again and again until it does have a good shot at being passed. who knows... [/quote] It's symbiotic. Right wingers in the west get to rally the masses about the threat of the Muslim hordes and normatively religious despots get to rally the people they opress as men "defending Islam" from the western colonialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1810437' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:56 AM']I don't think (hopefully) that it will pass this time around. But the problem is that such a bill is getting media time. And the plausibility of the concept is going to be spread around. Then someday (probably in the not too distance future) a bill like it will come up again, and maybe again and again until it does have a good shot at being passed. who knows... [/quote] Exactly... this quote stands out, doesn't it: "Tragically, given that Islamic states completely dominate the Human Rights Council, with the support of non-democratic members like Russia, China, and Cuba, adoption of the regressive resolution is a forgone conclusion. E.U. diplomats hope at best to win over a handful of wavering Latin American states to the dissenting side." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1810474' date='Mar 18 2009, 07:56 AM']Exactly... this quote stands out, doesn't it: "Tragically, given that Islamic states completely dominate the Human Rights Council[/quote] How? There are what, ten Muslim (not "Islamic") states out of fourty seven? [quote]with the support of non-democratic members like Russia, China, and Cuba, adoption of the regressive resolution is a forgone conclusion.[/quote] Because Cuba and China want to make the "protection of Islam" their sacrosanct goal, seeing as how chummy they both are with organized religion. China and Russia both have internal conflicts with their Muslim minorities, often times the states being the antagonistic or opressive party. There are the states that are going to go to logerheads with the UK, Itally, Germany etc in order to protect Islam from blasphamey? As the people of Chechnya can attest Putin is a man of great respect and concern regarding the Muslim people and the protection of their right and ability to live a meaningful life [quote]E.U. diplomats hope at best to win over a handful of wavering Latin American states to the dissenting side."[/quote] Scary! come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 It may be the lack of sleep but nowhere did I see questioning Islamic dogma (assuming for a moment that term makes sense applied to Islam) asserted as a violation of human rights. In fact it looked like they used bolding to manipulate the the content on several occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] Well if were going to do this for radical Islam......I put forth radical Catholicism should be included This is such a great example of why the UN is a [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] organization. ---------------- Listening to: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/relient+k/track/forward+motion"]Relient K - Forward Motion[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1810681' date='Mar 18 2009, 02:28 PM'][mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] Well if were going to do this for radical Islam......I put forth radical Catholicism should be included This is such a great example of why the UN is a [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] organization. ---------------- Listening to: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/relient+k/track/forward+motion"]Relient K - Forward Motion[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url][/quote] Why? First of all no one can given a specific problem with the bill. I have problems with it, I think several of its assertions are very contestable, however none of the people outraged have given any spefici thing they feel is wrong with it. Moreover it is proposed. How many goofy bills has some representative put forth in the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1810681' date='Mar 18 2009, 03:28 PM'][mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] Well if were going to do this for radical Islam......I put forth radical Catholicism should be included This is such a great example of why the UN is a [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] organization. ---------------- Listening to: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/relient+k/track/forward+motion"]Relient K - Forward Motion[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url][/quote] why is this an example of it being a [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] organziation? i might agree that it is, but this isn't a reason. that's like saying the american system is [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod], cause someone proposes to squash all non-Islam speech. i think your comments are more an indicator of your tendency to be a cookie cutter conservative. i don't know you well enough to say ya are, but criticizing the UN is cookie cutter conservative 101, and evertything else i know about your views indicate that tendency. not meant as merely a deregation of your political beliefs... people who are cookie cutters can change, if they want, once they are aware they have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1810940' date='Mar 18 2009, 07:53 PM']Why? First of all no one can given a specific problem with the bill. I have problems with it, I think several of its assertions are very contestable, however none of the people outraged have given any spefici thing they feel is wrong with it. Moreover it is proposed. How many goofy bills has some representative put forth in the house?[/quote] More than you would care to count. I didn't mean that just because an organization proposes something idiotic then it must be a bad organization, rather this was just an example of a bad idea from a political front organization. My ideas correlate with seperate arguments with one not being in this thread. [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1811758' date='Mar 19 2009, 04:27 PM']why is this an example of it being a [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod] organziation? i might agree that it is, but this isn't a reason.[/quote] Correct. Not the sole reason. More of a secondary reason. [quote]that's like saying the american system is [mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod], cause someone proposes to squash all non-Islam speech.[/quote] [quote]i think your comments are more an indicator of your tendency to be a cookie cutter conservative. i don't know you well enough to say ya are, but criticizing the UN is cookie cutter conservative 101, and evertything else i know about your views indicate that tendency. not meant as merely a deregation of your political beliefs... people who are cookie cutters can change, if they want, once they are aware they have a problem.[/quote] So your saying I have a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1811758' date='Mar 19 2009, 05:27 PM']i think your comments are more an indicator of your tendency to be a cookie cutter conservative. i don't know you well enough to say ya are, but criticizing the UN is cookie cutter conservative 101, and evertything else i know about your views indicate that tendency. not meant as merely a deregation of your political beliefs... people who are cookie cutters can change, if they want, once they are aware they have a problem.[/quote] People who are blind to reality can change too, Dairy. The UN is a criminal sham of an organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary's Son Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 One world government, a false religion, an anti-Christ. It's looking all Revelation up in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 [quote name='Mary's Son' post='1812177' date='Mar 20 2009, 07:00 AM']One world government, a false religion, an anti-Christ. It's looking all Revelation up in here.[/quote] What exactly, from the text, is wrong with it? No one will actually atack the content, they just all agree that is is a horrid sham of a blankity blank blank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 It passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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