Pharmacueticals, Or Drugs Referred To In Rev.9:21!

[Bruce S]

[quote]Pharmacueticals, or drugs referred to in Rev.9:21!

How about this one! Sound familiar to the events of our day?

What was the word 'Sorceries' in Greek - that is mistranslated in English? (Rev.9:21)

The verse reads as follows (from the NIV): "Nor did they repent of their murders, their SORCERIES, their sexual immorality, or their thefts."

However in Greek, the word is 'pharmakia.' Or if properly translated in English could read The word for “sorceries” (pharmakeia) also implies the use of potions, poisons, and drugs, thus our word pharmacueticals ![/quote]

So, I guess this shows once again how God ANTICIPATES our future from the past and gives us a fair warning of the danger. Amazing He is ... amazing what He wants from us....

[annie]

BruceS,

Would it be anything that alters truth? (distorts truth)

[cmotherofpirl]

They did have drugs back then Bruce.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

Actually, Bruce, the NAB, a Catholic Bible, says:

[quote] Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic potions, their unchastity, or their robberies.[/quote]

It seems that at the very least, the Catholic Church wouldn't try to mistranslate the word. However, according to some sources, the word referred to contraceptive drugs, which makes much more sense with the context.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote]QUOTE 
Pharmacueticals, or drugs referred to in Rev.9:21!

How about this one! Sound familiar to the events of our day?

What was the word 'Sorceries' in Greek - that is mistranslated in English? (Rev.9:21)

The verse reads as follows (from the NIV): "Nor did they repent of their murders, their SORCERIES, their sexual immorality, or their thefts."

However in Greek, the word is 'pharmakia.' Or if properly translated in English could read The word for “sorceries” (pharmakeia) also implies the use of potions, poisons, and drugs, thus our word pharmacueticals ! [/quote]


[quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 22 2004, 08:28 AM']
So, I guess this shows once again how God ANTICIPATES our future from the past and gives us a fair warning of the danger. Amazing He is ... amazing what He wants from us....[/quote]
Bruce,

I would like to suggest to you a book by Dr. Scott Hahn called the "The Lambs Supper"

It will give you the correct interpreation of the book of Rev.

Scott Hahn is a protestant convert to The Catholic Church.

While he was a protestant he studied the book of Rev. for years and years.

Until one day he came to Holy Mass and his eye's were opened!

He also has a book called "Rome sweet Home" (which is the conversion story of him and his wife to The Catholic Church).

He has a ton of books out I have read most of them and strongly suggest these for teaching.

More on Scott can be found at www.salvationhistory.com/

I suggest him to you because he used to be protestant as you are. Maybe you can relate?

I hope so, the work the Holy Spirit has done through that man is astounding!

Hope this helps! (if thats what your looking for?)

Love in Christ
God Bless Jason

Edited March 23, 2004 by Jason

[mulls]

[quote name='Jason' date='Mar 22 2004, 11:48 PM']
It will give you the correct interpreation of the book of Rev.

[/quote]
ah, so Scott Hahn has it right.



his word is gospel?

[Livin_the_MASS]

[b][i]Nihil Obstat[/i][/b]: Rev. James Dunfee, Censor Librorum

[b][i]Imprimatur[/i][/b]: Most Rev. Gilbert Sheldon, Bishop of Steubenville

This states that the book is free of doctrinal or moral error!

Do I need to say more?


[quote]his word is gospel? [/quote]

hmmm??? Don't recall saying that????

What part of my post are reading???

Edited March 23, 2004 by Jason

[mulls]

yes




say Scott Hahn's word can be taken as gospel.



in english words that i understand, leaving out people that i never heard of.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='mulls' date='Mar 22 2004, 11:25 PM'] yes




say Scott Hahn's word can be taken as gospel.



in english words that i understand, leaving out people that i never heard of. [/quote]
I don't understand what your trying to say explain futher if you wish!

[mulls]

you said Scott Hahn has the correct interpretation of Revelation.



which means everybody else does not.



so, let Scott Hahn be truth and every man be a liar?

[cmotherofpirl]

The Book of Revelations is full of meaning. The imprimatur on Scott Hahn's book simply means there is no doctrinal error in his interpretation. It doesn't mean it is the only posssible interpretation free of doctrinal error. Believe it or not, the Church does not have an opinon on each and every line in scripture.

Edited March 23, 2004 by cmotherofpirl

[ironmonk]

mulls,
It's a real shame that the majority of non-Catholics don't study what the first Chrsitians wrote about the bible books and letters.

If you want to be a bible Christian, you need to know what interpretations they taught.

Here's a commentary on it from around and before 300 AD....
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0712.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0712.htm[/url]
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/34061.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/34061.htm[/url]
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/34062.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/34062.htm[/url]
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0507.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0507.htm[/url]


Use "CTRL + F" search for Apocalypse, John, and/or Revelation



Something to think about, unless someone is infallible, then they must believe that there is a chance that they could be wrong.

I do not dialog from my own point of view, I dialog from what the Church teaches infallibly. The Church has never been proven wrong. The Church has an answer for every attack and every answer has made perfect sense. I don't say this because I was told to. I say this because it is what I have found in the last 24 years of bible study.


God Bless,
ironmonk