Why Men Stay Away From The Feminized Church

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote]The more traditionally masculine side of Christianity enjoys crossing swords with hostile secular worldviews.[/quote]

My favourite hobby!!!

[ardillacid]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1804851' date='Mar 12 2009, 01:46 PM']Eve did not use sex appeal to tempt Adam though...[/quote]
Says who? A naked woman tells you to eat an apple, most guys don't have the willpower to say no to a naked chick. Sorry. Its your fault.

Edited March 12, 2009 by notardillacid

[takebacktonight]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1804925' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:17 PM']Says who? A naked woman tells you to eat an apple, most guys don't have the willpower to say no to a naked chick. Sorry. Its your fault.[/quote]


Actually, I believe it was John Milton who said it was an apple... Before that, it was just 'fruit'.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1804925' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:17 PM']Says who? A naked woman tells you to eat an apple, most guys don't have the willpower to say no to a naked chick. Sorry. Its your fault.[/quote]

Except Adam and Eve did not KNOW they were naked until AFTER they ate the fruit.

[takebacktonight]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1804932' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:25 PM']Except Adam and Eve did not KNOW they were naked until AFTER they ate the fruit. [/quote]


Absolutely...

Ever read Salve Deus Rex Judeorum?

[url="http://drakesdoor.org/podcasts/al/amelialanyer.html"]Eve's Apology in Defense of Women[/url]:

Till now your indiscretion sets us free,
And makes our former fault much lesse appeare;
Our Mother Eve, who tasted of the Tree,
Giving to Adam what shee held most deare,
Was simply good, and had no powre to see,
The after-comming harme did not appeare:
The subtile Serpent that our Sex betraide,
Before our fall so sure a plot had laide.

That undiscerning Ignorance perceav'd
No guile, or craft that was by him intended;
For had she knowne, of what we were bereav'd,
To his request she had not condiscended.
But she (poore soule) by cunning was deceav'd,
No hurt therein her harmelesse Heart intended:
For she alleadg'd Gods word, which he denies,
That they should die, but even as Gods, be wise.

But surely Adam can not be excusde,
Her fault though great, yet hee was most too blame;
What Weaknesse offerd, Strength might have refusde,
Being Lord of all, the greater was his shame:
Although the Serpents craft had her abusde,
Gods holy word ought all his actions frame,
For he was Lord and King of all the earth,
Before poore Eve had either life or breath.

Who being fram'd by Gods eternall hand,
The perfect'st man that ever breath'd on earth;
And from Gods mouth receiv'd that strait command,
The breach whereof he knew was present death:
Yea having powre to rule both Sea and Land,
Yet with one Apple wonne to loose that breath
Which God had breathed in his beauteous face,
Bringing us all in danger and disgrace.

And then to lay the fault on Patience backe,
That we (poore women) must endure it all;
We know right well he did discretion lacke,
Beeing not perswaded thereunto at all;
If Eve did erre, it was for knowledge sake,
The fruit beeing faire perswaded him to fall:
No subtill Serpents falshood did betray him,
If he would eate it, who had powre to stay him?

Not Eve, whose fault was onely too much love,
Which made her give this present to her Deare,
That what shee tasted, he likewise might prove,
Whereby his knowledge might become more cleare;
He never sought her weakenesse to reprove,
With those sharpe words, which he of God did heare:
Yet Men will boast of Knowledge, which he tooke
From Eves faire hand, as from a learned Booke.

If any Evill did in her remaine,
Beeing made of him, he was the ground of all;
If one of many Worlds could lay a staine
Upon our Sexe, and worke so great a fall
To wretched Man, by Satans subtill traine;
What will so fowle a fault amongst you all?
Her weakenesse did the Serpents words obay;
But you in malice Gods deare Sonne betray.


Edit: Of course, this is certainly not a modern day 'feminist' interpretation.

Edited March 12, 2009 by takebacktonight

[Hassan]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1804925' date='Mar 12 2009, 02:17 PM']Says who? A naked woman tells you to eat an apple, most guys don't have the willpower to say no to a naked chick. Sorry. Its your fault.[/quote]


depends on the chick.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1804947' date='Mar 12 2009, 02:33 PM']depends on the chick. [/quote]
If it was Hassan for instance... I think I'll pass...

[Church Punk]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1804932' date='Mar 12 2009, 04:25 PM']Except Adam and Eve did not KNOW they were naked until AFTER they ate the fruit. [/quote]

I think they "knew" they were naked, but it didnt bother them, because there was no lust involved - no sin. It wasnt until after the fall that they were shameful and felt lust for each other.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1804953' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:40 PM']If it was Hassan for instance... I think I'll pass...


[/quote]


I'm not a chick

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1804956' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:41 PM']I'm not a chick [/quote]

I've been fooled all this time.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1804956' date='Mar 12 2009, 02:41 PM']I'm not a chick [/quote]
That's exactly what you would say if you were a girl posing as a guy for some twisted amusement.

[takebacktonight]

Seriously though, back to the article... I totally agree with HisChildForever. The notion that emotionality and inner spirituality are inherently female is bullfunky. Just take a look at the Promise Keepers. Those are some pretty emotional dudes totally dedicated to putting women back in their place, because it's God's will.

Yes, women are socially conditioned to express or repress certain aspects of their character to conform to gender norms, as are men, but this has nothing to do with a percentage of 'innateness'.

[Hassan]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1804962' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:44 PM']I've been fooled all this time.[/quote]


I'm a secret muslima

[Nihil Obstat]

It would be unfair to stereotype too harshly, but something about that article rings true when it talks about men being interested in defending the faith through confrontation and intellectual debate...

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='takebacktonight' post='1804988' date='Mar 12 2009, 03:54 PM']The notion that emotionality and inner spirituality are inherently female is bullfunky.[/quote]

Exactly. After all, weren't the Apostles male? Isn't our GOD a male??