We Should Be Ashamed Of Our Hatred -mature Content!

[Didacus]

Whatever makes them more popular they will say, they will do. Carre for your own soul first, then pray for them - I cna think of nothing else to do.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
from HotAir:
Exit question: Why is it that Hollywood’s ability to influence the culture is not only acknowledged but celebrated by the industry when that influence is salutary, but denied and dismissed as conservative scapegoating when it isn’t, e.g., in glamorizing violence and teen promiscuity?

good question.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1789403' date='Feb 23 2009, 01:38 PM']+J.M.J.+
and why do we care what these court jesters have to say about the world? [/quote]
Apparently because we're "a bunch of commie homo lovers".

(To quote Sean Penn)

Edited February 23, 2009 by Nihil Obstat

[track2004]

He just won an Oscar. If he doesn't matter and his opinion doesn't matter don't talk about it.

Also remember to be better than the crazy Westboro Church people outside the Oscars last night because they def aren't giving a good name to your side.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='track2004' post='1789698' date='Feb 23 2009, 09:06 PM']Also remember to be better than the crazy Westboro Church people outside the Oscars last night because they def aren't giving a good name to your side.[/quote]
The WBC isn't any more on our side than Sean Penn is.

[Tinkerlina]

[quote name='socalscout' post='1789257' date='Feb 23 2009, 11:14 AM']I did not watch the Oscars but I did happen to turn to the best actor award and watch Sean Penn win for "Milk" and then proceed to berate everyone who protested him oustide as well as everyone who voted for Prop 8 in California, to the audience's applause.

Sometimes I am glad I moved away from that State.[/quote]

Honestly, I don't know why they were protesting him being nominated for an Oscar for portraying a gay man, though. It does bother me that people who disagree with homosexuality as a lifestyle are labeled as "haters"-I don't know how to move beyond this rhetoric though. It's a tough issue for me as sometimes there are so many people around me, loved ones, friends, who are gay, who are wonderful people and I wonder why it can't be accepted. But then, I also see why homosexual activity isn't part of God's plan for humanity and sexuality. But I certainly don't hate anyone. -Katie

Edited February 24, 2009 by Tinkerlina

[BG45]

Sean Penn's acting is atrocious, he has to get his attention somehow I guess.

[Zoecool13]

[quote name='BG45' post='1789851' date='Feb 23 2009, 10:31 PM']Sean Penn's acting is atrocious, he has to get his attention somehow I guess.[/quote]


So did all of you have this many problems with Penn when he portrayed Matthew Poncalet in Dead Man Walking and brought to light many issues with the death penalty? How he spoke up for Sr. Helen Prejean, and helped bring her to mainstream?

As for those of you who hate Sean Penn and homosexuals, I'd really suggest you dive back into your Bible. It's you that give good Catholics a bad name. As Catholics we've been called to help our fellow man whether we agree with their actions or not. As for Gay Catholics, they're called to live their Catholic faith at a harder and more difficult level. Rather then make fun of them, why not get to know some of them, and put on a pair of their shoes and see how you can help them.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Zoecool13' post='1789896' date='Feb 24 2009, 12:13 AM']As for those of you who hate Sean Penn and homosexuals, I'd really suggest you dive back into your Bible. It's you that give good Catholics a bad name. As Catholics we've been called to help our fellow man whether we agree with their actions or not. As for Gay Catholics, they're called to live their Catholic faith at a harder and more difficult level. Rather then make fun of them, why not get to know some of them, and put on a pair of their shoes and see how you can help them.[/quote]

I don't recall a SINGLE person in this thread saying they hated homosexuals, not one catholic here said that. Maybe you could start over with an apology and actually read the thread again.
Last I checked thinking Sean Penn is a lousy actor is not homophobia.

[Tinkerlina]

[quote name='Zoecool13' post='1789896' date='Feb 24 2009, 12:13 AM']Catholics we've been called to help our fellow man whether we agree with their actions or not. As for Gay Catholics, they're called to live their Catholic faith at a harder and more difficult level. Rather then make fun of them, why not get to know some of them, and put on a pair of their shoes and see how you can help them.[/quote]

Very true, though I don't think anyone was making fun of people who are gay. I'm honestly not really sure how to help gay people, though. I pray for the people that I know who are gay, that they will find the path God wants for them. But beyond that, I don't want to be personally critical of individuals 1:1. I don't know any gay people who identify as Catholics, myself, most of them left the church or were not religious in the first place. -Katie

Edited February 24, 2009 by Tinkerlina

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='Zoecool13' post='1789896' date='Feb 23 2009, 09:13 PM']So did all of you have this many problems with Penn when he portrayed Matthew Poncalet in Dead Man Walking and brought to light many issues with the death penalty? How he spoke up for Sr. Helen Prejean, and helped bring her to mainstream?[/quote]

Um...Point?

[quote]As for those of you who hate Sean Penn and homosexuals, I'd really suggest you dive back into your Bible.[/quote]

Where has anyone on this thread said anything hateful towards homosexuals? I believe that an apology is in order here.

[quote]It's you that give good Catholics a bad name.[/quote]

I'd probably say the same thing about people like you who jump to conclusions and need to develop rudimentary reading comprehension.

[quote]As Catholics we've been called to help our fellow man whether we agree with their actions or not.[/quote]

Yes. You're not helping--you're hurting.

[quote]As for Gay Catholics, they're called to live their Catholic faith at a harder and more difficult level. Rather then make fun of them, why not get to know some of them, and put on a pair of their shoes and see how you can help them.[/quote]

Once again, where has anyone on this thread (or any regular board member) ever made fun of a gay Catholic. I don't just think an apology is order, I hereby demand one!

[Hassan]

[quote name='track2004' post='1789698' date='Feb 23 2009, 09:06 PM']He just won an Oscar. If he doesn't matter and his opinion doesn't matter don't talk about it.

Also remember to be better than the crazy Westboro Church people outside the Oscars last night because they def aren't giving a good name to your side.[/quote]


I agree with him to an extent. Simply having a sexual ethics in which homosexuality is deemed morally wrong is a personal decision. However trying to use state law to block people from leading meaningful lives and having the same opertunities and rights as other Americans is wrong and I do think that those who voted against it should take a look at themselves in the mirror.

If you beleive that inter racial marriage is wrong that is fine, but please don't intrude into the lives of inter racial couples and block them from getting married.

[BG45]

[quote name='Zoecool13' post='1789896' date='Feb 24 2009, 12:13 AM']So did all of you have this many problems with Penn when he portrayed Matthew Poncalet in Dead Man Walking and brought to light many issues with the death penalty? How he spoke up for Sr. Helen Prejean, and helped bring her to mainstream?

As for those of you who hate Sean Penn and homosexuals, I'd really suggest you dive back into your Bible. It's you that give good Catholics a bad name. As Catholics we've been called to help our fellow man whether we agree with their actions or not. As for Gay Catholics, they're called to live their Catholic faith at a harder and more difficult level. Rather then make fun of them, why not get to know some of them, and put on a pair of their shoes and see how you can help them.[/quote]

How did you get all of that from the simple action of my stating Sean Penn's acting isn't worth a mushy mud pie? I'm allowed to not like a man's acting without having an alternative agenda, despite what you apparently feel.

Also as a Baptist, I imagine I would give Catholics a bad name.

Edited February 24, 2009 by BG45

[Hassan]

[quote name='BG45' post='1789851' date='Feb 23 2009, 11:31 PM']Sean Penn's acting is atrocious, he has to get his attention somehow I guess.[/quote]

lol.

So after he just stared in a major motion picture, appeared on numerous popular television shows (where he was popular), and won an Oscar he, while receiving the oscar, decided that his acting career was going down the tubes and needed to get attention somehow?


I understand you all don't like Sean Penn, neither do I, but let's at least have the petty swipes be somewhat coherent

[BG45]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1789941' date='Feb 24 2009, 01:08 AM']lol.

So after he just stared in a major motion picture, appeared on numerous popular television shows (where he was popular), and won an Oscar he, while receiving the oscar, decided that his acting career was going down the tubes and needed to get attention somehow?


I understand you all don't like Sean Penn, neither do I, but let's at least have the petty swipes be somewhat coherent [/quote]

And as I said previously in this thread, I have [b]always[/b] thought his acting stinks. If you want to play troll tonight in the threads I post in, I don't have to play along anymore.

Edited February 24, 2009 by BG45