LouisvilleFan Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1782317' date='Feb 16 2009, 04:51 AM']Sometime I gotta??? Or you could read the[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=43578&hl="] greatest thread [/url]ever in Phatmass history [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=43578&hl="]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...c=43578&hl=[/url][/quote] Impressive... and all this time I thought hot stuff was some inside joke that I'd never been in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Punk Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Its at the Louvre in Paris, under the pyramid, at the real location of the tomb of Mary Magdelene remember! Source -The De Vinci Code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 [quote name='Church Punk' post='1782342' date='Feb 16 2009, 07:10 AM']Its at the Louvre in Paris, under the pyramid, at the real location of the tomb of Mary Magdelene remember! Source -The De Vinci Code[/quote] Well since I'm descended from the Merovingians, it might be in one of my cousins' basements. I'll ask around and see if anyone has seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 hot stuff is back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 [quote name='Selah' post='1783357' date='Feb 17 2009, 07:57 AM']hot stuff is back!!!! [/quote] He is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1782317' date='Feb 16 2009, 04:51 AM']Sometime I gotta??? Or you could read the[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=43578&hl="] greatest thread [/url]ever in Phatmass history [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=43578&hl="]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...c=43578&hl=[/url][/quote] i missed you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='ReinnieR' post='1785154' date='Feb 19 2009, 12:24 AM']i missed you!!!![/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1785160' date='Feb 19 2009, 12:50 AM'][/quote] hot stuff!!!!! I missed yoU!!! ANd the holy grail is in my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 no thoughts yet about the Blessed Anne Catherine vision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Did she see the Ark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='kafka' post='1785223' date='Feb 19 2009, 03:01 AM']no thoughts yet about the Blessed Anne Catherine vision?[/quote] I don't remember her being in Monty Python... Not sure what to make of it. Makes for a good story. How do we know her vision wasn't a metaphor or symbolism, much like Revelation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='Selah' post='1785320' date='Feb 19 2009, 07:36 AM']Did she see the Ark?[/quote] I'm not sure. I havent read all of her works. [quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1785357' date='Feb 19 2009, 08:51 AM']Not sure what to make of it. Makes for a good story. How do we know her vision wasn't a metaphor or symbolism, much like Revelation?[/quote] Metaphors and symbols are figures of speech. The way in which she describes her visions is plain, and straightforward, in sort of a first person narrative style, as if she were present at the events she describes. It is a private revelation though, so obviously it doesnt hold the weight of dogma or doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 [quote name='kafka' post='1785223' date='Feb 19 2009, 01:01 AM']no thoughts yet about the Blessed Anne Catherine vision?[/quote] I'm not sure, but I'm hoping you know this. I know that her writings on the Passion were disregarded when her file went forward for sainthood because they were deemed to be anti-Semitic (and therefore would disqualify her for sainthood) but they felt like that was due to her translator and not her. Did they also put aside her holy grail visions, or were they included in her packet? That would certainly make a difference in the weight I would give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) [quote name='CatherineM' post='1785463' date='Feb 19 2009, 12:36 PM']I'm not sure, but I'm hoping you know this. I know that her writings on the Passion were disregarded when her file went forward for sainthood because they were deemed to be anti-Semitic (and therefore would disqualify her for sainthood) but they felt like that was due to her translator and not her. Did they also put aside her holy grail visions, or were they included in her packet? That would certainly make a difference in the weight I would give them.[/quote] My understanding is that her works were set aside when considering her beautification since the process is based on who one is and if one has lived virtue heroically and to a high degree, and not on what one writes. Her works have been personally promoted by Popes and Bishops, if not directly at least indirectly. As far as I know there is no official temporal decision by the Magisterium concerning her works. Therefore people have to decide for themselves. As far as anti-semitic remarks in the "Dolorous Passion" I personally havent seen any, but I havent read it in its entirety yet. Edited February 19, 2009 by kafka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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