homeschoolmom Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Mar 20 2004, 09:06 AM'] i think it starts with a K, right? [/quote] Is it Krypton?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 nooo.. [color=green]KOLAB![/color] right? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 20, 2004 Author Share Posted March 20, 2004 Yes, Koolab. God is from the planet Koolab in mormonism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 What??? I know about the "You. too, can be a god!!" of mormanism... but didn't realize that there was a home planet... weird... (wonder if my mom would prefer THAT over Catholicism!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 20, 2004 Author Share Posted March 20, 2004 Unlike Catholicism, Mormonism "sounds" Christian at first, and then scares you when you did in deep. Catholicism "sounds" anti-biblical at first, then you find out its Christian when you dig in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 20 2004, 09:51 AM'] Unlike Catholicism, Mormonism "sounds" Christian at first, and then scares you when you did in deep. Catholicism "sounds" anti-biblical at first, then you find out its Christian when you dig in. [/quote] True, true.... Mormonism seems more like evangelicalism than Catholicism does, but it's pretty, well.... wacky.... It's as if it came to some guy in a dream... oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 20, 2004 Author Share Posted March 20, 2004 you crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 20 2004, 10:21 AM'] you crack me up. [/quote] I believe "cut up" is in my official stay-at-home-mom job description... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TABBY Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 19 2004, 08:31 AM'] How many non-Catholic Christians will go to heaven? I'm not asking for an exact number, but what do you think. [/quote] From the CCC 819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements." Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity." 843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life." "Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336 [b]847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: [/b] Those who, through [b]no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church[/b], but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337 848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, [b]through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel[/b], to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom25angels Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Ok Am I missing something here? With this talk about emergency Baptism. Now there is some disagreement on this thread about whether or not the person performing the "ritual" of the Baptism has to have faith. If I'm understanding this disagreement correctly, the answer is no. Afterall the performer of the Rite of Baptism is not cleansing the soul of the unbaptised----Our Lord is. So, He can choose to work this miracle through someone without faith. This is why the Church teaches is an emergency even those without faith can Baptise. Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 21, 2004 Share Posted March 21, 2004 the emergency baptism thing was us bouncin off topic. the original thread was more in general about salvation of people outside the Catholic Church and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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