cmotherofpirl Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1777941' date='Feb 10 2009, 01:30 PM']Yes, but you see, they (the Jihadists) like people to know "who's boss". They like to try to make the world cower in fear of them. That's why they claim responsibility for the attacks. I think they would have said something by now.[/quote] Probably. But never discount people who have an agenda against you finding different methods of attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1777943' date='Feb 10 2009, 01:32 PM']Probably. But never discount people who have an agenda against you finding different methods of attack.[/quote] Oh, I wasn't. They're evil, but they're not stupid. I still think that sometimes fires, in arid environments with lots of dead, dry vegitation, just happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1777945' date='Feb 10 2009, 01:34 PM']Oh, I wasn't. They're evil, but they're not stupid. I still think that sometimes fires, in arid environments with lots of dead, dry vegitation, just happen though.[/quote] It happens quite often particularly with terrifically high temps and drought, but sometimes nature gets a bit of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1777912' date='Feb 10 2009, 12:44 PM']With almost 200 people dead, I don't find this particularly funny.[/quote] Agreed. Really inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1778035' date='Feb 10 2009, 03:12 PM']Agreed. Really inappropriate.[/quote] I think it's okay to let it go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1777928' date='Feb 10 2009, 01:05 PM']I'm fairly certain that we're laughing at the audacity of the theory, not the situation itself.[/quote] Apparently, you didn't bother to read the article, but instead chose to hijack the thread by inviting sarcastic and off-topic remarks. This was not a thread about a THEORY. Nowhere did I say I had a theory. I simply wrote the comment that the ARTICLE was something to think about. I found it interesting in light of the current situation in Australia and I was not aware of the article back in September. The article is from an Australian newsource and published in SEPTEMBER of 2008--five months before the current arson fire--in which threats were issued by radical Muslims to set fires in Australia. Where you see a theory in this, I do not know. Also, the reaction of some PMers to my articles posted about Islamic activities is really strange considering the same mocking tone and deliberate efforts to hijack threads are NOT applied to threads about liberals, radical Hindus killing Christians in India, the oppressive Communist regime in China, pro-abortionists, Barack Obama, or any number of news items that are posted here about events occuring around the world. It seems to me that the deliberate attempts to hijack threads with mocking and sarcastic comments have, in reality, very little to do with the subject matter itself, and more to do with the feelings that certain people have towards me (because I've demonstrated that I'm such a horrible person and all). Alternating between shunning and mocking is grade-school behavior and it should stop. Edited February 11, 2009 by Madame Vengier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1778069' date='Feb 10 2009, 03:39 PM']I think it's okay to let it go now.[/quote] Do you have something to offer to the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 It sounds quite plausible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1779102' date='Feb 11 2009, 07:12 PM']Apparently, you didn't bother to read the article, but instead chose to hijack the thread by inviting sarcastic and off-topic remarks. This was not a thread about a THEORY. Nowhere did I say I had a theory. I simply wrote the comment that the ARTICLE was something to think about.[/quote] If it ain't fact, it's theory. (Ps. Muslims aren't the root of all the world's problems.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bone _ Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1779102' date='Feb 11 2009, 04:12 PM']Apparently, you didn't bother to read the article, but instead chose to hijack the thread by inviting sarcastic and off-topic remarks. This was not a thread about a THEORY. Nowhere did I say I had a theory. I simply wrote the comment that the ARTICLE was something to think about. I found it interesting in light of the current situation in Australia and I was not aware of the article back in September. The article is from an Australian newsource and published in SEPTEMBER of 2008--five months before the current arson fire--in which threats were issued by radical Muslims to set fires in Australia. Where you see a theory in this, I do not know. Also, the reaction of some PMers to my articles posted about Islamic activities is really strange considering the same mocking tone and deliberate efforts to hijack threads are NOT applied to threads about liberals, radical Hindus killing Christians in India, the oppressive Communist regime in China, pro-abortionists, Barack Obama, or any number of news items that are posted here about events occuring around the world. It seems to me that the deliberate attempts to hijack threads with mocking and sarcastic comments have, in reality, very little to do with the subject matter itself, and more to do with the feelings that certain people have towards me (because I've demonstrated that I'm such a horrible person and all). Alternating between shunning and mocking is grade-school behavior and it should stop.[/quote] What does this have to do with the subject at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yeah. It's off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Listen Al Qaeda etc. is always going to be ginning people up for jihad. Forest jihad, financial jihad, you name it they attach the jihad label to it. Cartoonist draws nasty pictures of the prophet? Jihad! Western powers make war on a nearby Muslim nation? Jihad! Mall security tells Amir to stop touching the mannequins? Jihad! So far there is no evidence of any terrorists setting any fires. They are huge deadly explosion kinda guys. So why worry about Islamic extremists and their Bic lighters of death. [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1779102' date='Feb 11 2009, 07:12 PM']Apparently, you didn't bother to read the article, but instead chose to hijack the thread by inviting sarcastic and off-topic remarks. This was not a thread about a THEORY. Nowhere did I say I had a theory. I simply wrote the comment that the ARTICLE was something to think about. I found it interesting in light of the current situation in Australia and I was not aware of the article back in September. The article is from an Australian newsource and published in SEPTEMBER of 2008--five months before the current arson fire--in which threats were issued by radical Muslims to set fires in Australia. Where you see a theory in this, I do not know. Also, the reaction of some PMers to my articles posted about Islamic activities is really strange considering the same mocking tone and deliberate efforts to hijack threads are NOT applied to threads about liberals, radical Hindus killing Christians in India, the oppressive Communist regime in China, pro-abortionists, Barack Obama, or any number of news items that are posted here about events occuring around the world. It seems to me that the deliberate attempts to hijack threads with mocking and sarcastic comments have, in reality, very little to do with the subject matter itself, and more to do with the feelings that certain people have towards me (because I've demonstrated that I'm such a horrible person and all). Alternating between shunning and mocking is grade-school behavior and it should stop.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1779102' date='Feb 11 2009, 07:12 PM']Also, the reaction of some PMers to my articles posted about Islamic activities is really strange [...] It seems to me that the deliberate attempts to hijack threads [..][/quote] So, you really think there is an orchestrated, deliberate attempt to hijack your threads. And that this conspiracy is all about you. P.S. It's natural for some people to figure that every crime-- is really an act of terror-- is really a movement on the giant chess board of Islam vs. The West. Post 9/11 the brain will go there. I remember when that plane went down in the Hudson ... I thought: Terror?!? Muslims?!? Thing is, it don't make it so. Everyone thought that way about right wing white men after Oklahoma City. All the terrorism plots in the movies/television featured a militia trying to destabilize the government. On Sept. 11, people in the room with me wondered aloud if it was the same Right Wing Wackos who were doing everything. It wasn't. so now the paradigm has shifted and our brains automatically wonder if its Muslims. I personally try to fight that urge. It is wise, from a security point of view, to fight that urge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1779198' date='Feb 11 2009, 09:02 PM']So, you really think there is an orchestrated, deliberate attempt to hijack your threads. And that this conspiracy is all about you. P.S. It's natural for some people to figure that every crime-- is really an act of terror-- is really a movement on the giant chess board of Islam vs. The West. Post 9/11 the brain will go there. I remember when that plane went down in the Hudson ... I thought: Terror?!? Muslims?!? Thing is, it don't make it so. Everyone thought that way about right wing white men after Oklahoma City. All the terrorism plots in the movies/television featured a militia trying to destabilize the government. On Sept. 11, people in the room with me wondered aloud if it was the same Right Wing Wackos who were doing everything. It wasn't. so now the paradigm has shifted and our brains automatically wonder if its Muslims. I personally try to fight that urge. It is wise, from a security point of view, to fight that urge.[/quote] Actually MV's thread have been hijacked. It is a legitimate concern since the article was posted months before the fires. The Aussies are treating this a deliberate crime scene. Its rather naive to hide your head under a rock cause sometimes people really are out to get you. From a security point of view forewarned IS forearmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1779208' date='Feb 11 2009, 09:14 PM']Its rather naive to hide your head under a rock cause sometimes people really are out to get you. From a security point of view forewarned IS forearmed.[/quote] Hmmm yeah but see being forewarned and forearmed is not necessarily a good thing. It's what you're not forewarned about that you have to worry about. Pre- 9/11, everyone assumed that if they ever came over here, they'd be blowing up buses, intifada style. In DC, the mayor had the Mossad come over and give the cops tips. They were thinking inside the box, and they let other things slip through. See, if you expect a certain attack, you can plan and get ready. But as you prepare for this certain kind of attack, your flexibility diminishes. At the end of the graph, you're super prepared for what you think is coming. But if something different does come along, you will be unable to respond. That is the debate, in the security establishment, whether it's better to be a little less prepared and more flexible or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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