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[Christie_M]

happy anniversary

[eagle_eye222001]

[quote name='rachael' post='1770301' date='Feb 2 2009, 09:45 PM'][/quote]

Ummmmmmmmmmm. You act as if I know. Which I probably do. The next question is to decide what your inference means to me to suggest what I should know that you should know to just act like that to get me to understand what you don't need to say because I already know.

There are a couple things that come to mind........

So what [b]do [/b]you know now that I understand that I'm supposed to understand.


Or maybe I am just acting presumptuously. So WHAT?

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[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1770232' date='Feb 2 2009, 08:22 PM']I only registered to ask a question.... [/quote]

I remember doing something like that too.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1770232' date='Feb 2 2009, 06:22 PM']I only registered to ask a question.... [/quote]
+J.M.J.+
did it get answered?

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
nevermind, i found it:
[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='112326' date='Feb 3 2004, 06:02 PM']My husband and I are considering joining the Catholic Church, which would mean leaving our Baptist church that we love very dearly (but that's a for another post).

We have three children: a daughter (7.5 years old), a son (5) and another son (nearly 5 months old).

My husband and I are both baptized (he in an evangelical church as a child, I as an infant in the Methodist church and again-- I know, that's a no-no-- as an adult). I was also confirmed in the Methodist church. My husband did not have any confirmation.

Our daughter was baptized last year. Our sons are not. All three of our children were dedicated as infants. Which, I know, means nothing for Catholics.

My question(s): What will need to be done for us to join the Catholic Church? Our baptisms are valid, right? Can our sons be baptized before we are able to finish RCIA classes or must we wait? Will our daughter be able to participate in First Communion or will she need to wait until we are members?

I know that I could call our local parish and ask all of these things, but frankly, I am not ready to.

Thank you.[/quote]


[quote name='Adeodatus' post='118022' date='Feb 11 2004, 08:07 AM']I was waiting for a Canon Lawyer and/or an American to answer your queries, but rather than keep you waiting I guess I'll have to do!!!!
(Bear in mind that what I tell you is from an English context. The American bishops may have legislated different customs for the States).

Your baptism, your husband's and your daughter's are most likely considered valid. If there is any doubt, i.e. lack of paperwork, lack of witnesses, or dodgy non-Trinitarian formula used etc., then the one whose baptism is in doubt could be "conditionally baptised" i.e. 'If you are not already baptised, I baptise you now in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit'.

The Catholic Church recognises the validity of confirmation in the ancient Orthodox churches, but not in churches without apostolic succession like Protestant churches.
So when you are received into the Catholic Church, you and your husband will be confirmed. Your daughter may or may not be confirmed, depending on the age of confirmation in the States. But she will still be received into the Church at the same time as you and your husband.

It is likely that all three of you will be given Communion as well, because your reception into the Church will take place during a Mass. So your daughter's First Communion will be during this Mass, unless the American bishops have other provisions.

Your two sons are unlikely to be baptised before their parents become Catholic. The most likely thing is that they will be baptised in the same ceremony as your confirmation and reception into the Church.

I hope that helps!

The best way to find out is to get down to your parish Church and talk to your parish priest. Sign up for RCIA, meet your local church-members, and go to Mass every Sunday with them. God bless!!![/quote]

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
and:
[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='127402' date='Feb 26 2004, 07:33 AM']I'm wondering why the Church has people who are married outside the Catholic church (converts for example) have their marriages blessed? If the original marriage occurred in another Christian church, why is it nessasary to redo it? I understand that it is a sacrament, but so is baptism, but the Church recognizes baptisms of other churches... so why not marriage? And, if the Catholic church only recognized the blessing but not the original marriage, doesn't that make the children illigitimate and isn't that wrong if they were conceived and born within a Christian marriage?

It just seems that if it's wrong to re-baptize, it should be wrong to re-marry (even if it is the same ol' husband )

Am I misunderstanding something?[/quote]


[quote name='Adeodatus' post='127501' date='Feb 26 2004, 10:54 AM']Dear homeschoolmom,

If two unbaptised people who are married decide to become Catholics, and get baptised, they automatically receive the sacrament of matrimony when they are baptised. They didn't have the sacrament of matrimony before their baptism, but have it after. There is no need to "re-marry" them.

If two baptised and non-Catholic people are married, they already have the sacrament of matrimony. Becoming Catholic doesn't alter the existence of their pre-existing sacrament of matrimony.

The situation with a baptised person marrying an unbaptised person is like the first scenario. It is a marriage, but not a sacrament. The baptism of the unbaptised party makes their marriage into a sacrament.[/quote]


[quote name='Adeodatus' post='127969' date='Feb 27 2004, 08:57 AM']There is a situation I overlooked. A Catholic marries someone (Catholic, non-Catholic, non-baptised) in a civil wedding.

From the Church's point of view this is not a valid marriage for a Catholic unless they have received dispensation. So they have to go through what we call "convalidation"---their marriage is made valid (and if both are baptised, then the marriage also becomes sacramental). The convalidation is basically a marriage ceremony. The legitimacy of any children is not in doubt, because the couple had a putative marriage at least, before it was convalidated.

Maybe this is the "re-marriage" homeschoolmom had in mind? I hope I've answered your question.[/quote]

wow, this is all very enlightening, hsmom!!

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1770259' date='Feb 2 2009, 09:05 PM']Anybody ever answer it? [/quote]
Yeah, actually... as Red points out.

But... before it was answered in QA, Aloysius almost IMMEDIATELY pmed me with an answer-- that boy really wants to be a church scholar.... And then shortly after that, you, cmom, welcomed me to PM via pm.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1771827' date='Feb 4 2009, 10:36 AM']Yeah, actually... as Red points out.

But... before it was answered in QA, Aloysius almost IMMEDIATELY pmed me with an answer-- that boy really wants to be a church scholar.... And then shortly after that, you, cmom, welcomed me to PM via pm. [/quote]
Its funny it seems like yesterday but it also seems like forever

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1771831' date='Feb 4 2009, 09:42 AM'] Its funny it seems like yesterday but it also seems like forever [/quote]
Yeah, it does. I still feel like a newbie because I know who was here before me.

HSbaby is in kindergarten.