add Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1766075' date='Jan 29 2009, 08:13 PM']Oh? How many others have indicated relishing that idea?[/quote] what does hell have to do with this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='apparently' post='1766124' date='Jan 29 2009, 09:15 PM'] what does hell have to do with this topic?[/quote] Because I, on behalf of our entire community, take offense to the thought that we're made up of a bunch of people who like the thought of others going to hell. It has little to do with the original topic, but neither did the comment the poster made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1766131' date='Jan 29 2009, 09:25 PM']Because I, on behalf of our entire community, take offense to the thought that we're made up of a bunch of people who like the thought of others going to hell. It has little to do with the original topic, but neither did the comment the poster made.[/quote] my point exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='apparently' post='1766229' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:28 PM']my point exactly[/quote] Wait...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='jkaands' post='1764726' date='Jan 28 2009, 03:18 PM']How many phatmassers work for a living, ie., support themselves and their families?[/quote] As far as I know, most of us do, or at least most of us not enamored of Obama. Your point being? [quote]How many have lost their jobs? Lost their pension or had them greatly reduced in value? Lost their health insurance? Been foreclosed or evicted? Declared-- or tried to declare--bankruptcy?[/quote] I don't know. What does that have to do with Obama being a great president again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Jesus_lol' post='1764936' date='Jan 28 2009, 08:38 PM']i wasnt aware of who started the problem, merely that in 8 years it hasnt been fixed while it built up to this econo-bomb. if you buy an ill maintained car, then continue the lack of maintenance and checkups, it is ultimately your responsibility when it blows up (even if it wasn't entirely your fault)[/quote] Bush was no more responsible for the credit crisis than the Democrats. In fact, he repeatedly had called for tighter regulation of Fannie and Freddie, while liberal Dems in congress opposed it at the time, on grounds of allowing "affordable housing." ([url="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print"]See NY Times article from 2003[/url].) Again, as was pointed out earlier, the crisis followed from policies put in place under Clinton; the housing bubble just happened to bust while Bush was in office. There is absolutely no evidence anything would have been different under a Democratic presidency. And let's not forget that Fannie Mae was a major contributor to Obama during the election. Treating the credit crisis as if it were the creation of Bush or the Republican party is nothing but dishonest political opportunism. [quote]you are right, he doesnt deserve all the bad press he gets. for certain issues, he deserves much more (lying in court about a BJ got clinton impeached, lying in court about starting a war barely even got in the newspapers) and for some he is definitely taking more blame than is right. in general, i believe the democrats were against the invasion of iraq. not everyone, but most. still, i give them some credit for having the brains to desert a sinking ship, even if they didnt have the honor to take their portion of the blame[/quote] Maybe someone can look up the votes, but the fact is that going to war in Iraq was a decision made with heavy Democratic support, including from liberals such as John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. What "you believe" is utterly irrelevant to the facts. Of course, as soon as the war starting becoming a political liability, these Democrats flip-flopped. Again, nothing but political opportunism. Edited January 30, 2009 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='jkaands' post='1766067' date='Jan 29 2009, 08:04 PM']It's interesting to observe how many posters on this forum relish the thought of those who disagree with them roasting in hell.[/quote] Who said anything about relishing? And no one said anything about "people that disagree with them" - the fact is simply that murder of the innocent is a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance. That's not politics; that's basic Catholic theology. One should not act shocked that people posting on a Catholic board are defending Catholic moral teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 It's basic Catholic Theology, but should be basic Human Theology. BTY, love the Sam Elliot avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='Socrates' post='1766245' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:36 PM']As far as I know, most of us do, or at least most of us not enamored of Obama. Your point being?[/quote] right, because people who voted for Obama don't understand work. I've been employed since I was 15 and am employed now thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='Hassan' post='1766322' date='Jan 29 2009, 11:23 PM']right, because people who voted for Obama don't understand work.[/quote] That seemed to be what jkaands was insinuating about those of us who are [i]not[/i] fans of Obama in the post I was replying to. [quote]I've been employed since I was 15 and am employed now thank you very much[/quote] Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkaands Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1766075' date='Jan 29 2009, 06:13 PM']Oh? How many others have indicated relishing that idea?[/quote] Not so many. At least they keep quiet about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 [quote name='jkaands' post='1769012' date='Feb 1 2009, 10:35 PM']Not so many. At least they keep quiet about it.[/quote] Oh, right. I forgot about all the people on Phatmass who just subliminally broadcast their fantasies of others burning in Hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 [quote name='jkaands' post='1769012' date='Feb 1 2009, 08:35 PM']Not so many. At least they keep quiet about it.[/quote] I can read minds too. It's useful, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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