The "secret"

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 17 2004, 08:47 PM'] Agh: Like I said: Signature:

If this keeps up, I could easily end up Catholic by next Easter (2005). [/quote]
And he tells me this a day or so later

[Iacobus]

LOL! I can probly steal a school bus for all the Phat Massers so we can have a good odd party bus with some MC Just playing, lol. Now I just need to get those keys from RJP.....

[Lil Red]

sweet-ness.

[Carrie]

[Aloysius]

he changed his sig...

[quote][b]Aloysius: Debate Table>Initial Conversion: Page 3[/b]

For by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God. Not of works, that no man may glory. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them. [i]Ephesians 2:8-10[/i]
now let's difine these terms biblically, shall we?

[b]grace [/b]we receive it by Christ and it intricately connected to our mission being sent to the whole world, our apostleship [i]Romans 1:5[/i] it is spiritual, an apostle may bring it to you through teaching and it strengthens you [i]Romans 1:11 [/i]by it we are freely justified and such grace is available because of the redemption found through Jesus Christ [i]Romans 3:24 [/i]we have access to grace through faith [i]Romans 5:2[/i] grace abounds to men by Jesus Christ in order to justify them [i]Romans 5:16 [/i]grace reigns by JUSTICE so that life everlasting may be achieved [i]Romans 5:21 [/i]i think it's reign being by JUSTICE is very important, it shows that grace given unto us governs us in true justice according to morality, and thus serious sin can cut grace off because grace is just.
saved in hope we are saved [i]Romans 8:24 [/i]he saves us and calls us through grace not of works OUTSIDE grace, only through works in the justice of grace INSIDE grace [i]2 Timothy 1:9;[/i] [i]Romans 5:21 [/i]we are continually being saved through the cross (suffering) which is the power of God [i]1 Cor 1:18[/i] we work out our salvation in fear and trembling [i]Phil 2:12 [/i]we obtain the salvation of our souls as the outcome of our faith [i]1 Peter 1:9[/i] all of this we've been saved and are being saved work towards the final goal, enduring to the end and being eternally saved [i]Matt. 10:22, 24:13; Mark 13:13; Acts 15:11; Rom. 5:9-10 [/i]we can be saved in the future by fire [i]1 Cor. 3:15[/i]

[b]faith [/b]a just man must live by faith! therefore, only if one lives their entire life according to true faith are they justified [i]Romans 1:17 [/i]we are justified by faith, not by works of the law [i]Romans 3:28 [/i]through JUSTICE of faith was abraham justified [i]Romans 4:14 [/i]there is a certain justice of faith by which we are called to live and think by [i]Romans 10:6[/i] and the later pasages indicate one's belief, their confession of the Lord, and their lives make up faith and that he who truly believes with true faith won't be confounded [i]Romans 10:7-11 [/i] faith stands on the power of God [i]1 Corinthians 2:5[/i] yet faith is useless without charity and love, thus you must live what you believe by faith to have true living faith[i] 1 Corinthians 14:2 [/i]it is this true living faith that includes charity and love that scripture speaks of in [i]Ephesians 2:8 [/i]along with [i]1 Corinthians 14:2 [/i]        faith must be spoken of in context of [i]James 2:17 [/i]and thus this faith that justifies and all the other things you see [color=red]faith [/color]doing throughout the scriptures [color=red]must consist of belief [i]Romans 10:6-11[/i] love [i]1 Corinthians 14:2 [/i]and works[i] James 2:17[/i]. [/color][color=blue]unless it includes all these things, it is not [true] faith. [/color][/quote]

i changed the end color cuz i think that's the most important thing i was tryin to get accross about faith. does that make sense?

Edited March 19, 2004 by Aloysius