cmotherofpirl Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 New Eucharist rules set for April publication The Vatican will publish strict new norms on the Eucharist next month, permanently changing the way Mass is celebrated throughout the world. London's Catholic Herald reports that Pope John Paul II has authorised the publication of the norms on Holy Thursday - 8 April - a year after his landmark encyclical on the Eucharist. The final draft of the document, which is now being translated from Latin, will be a carefully edited version of the draft text leaked last September. The draft, which discouraged the reception of communion in both kinds and limited the role of altar girls, provoked an angry reaction from bishops in the English-speaking world. After intensive episcopal lobbying, the Vatican is understood to have simplified the document and moderated some of the more controversial proscriptions. The Catholic Herald reports that a source close to the Vatican said the document is part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics. It is also likely to challenge the view that the Second Vatican Council gave local bishops the authority to adapt the liturgy. It will also emphasise that Rome must guarantee the universality of the Mass. SOURCE New rules on the Eucharist (Catholic Herald 10/3/04) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFaithMan21 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Sorry, Still a Bible-Boy in training, did they say anything in there about Lifeteen Masses in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Sounds good. [quote]The Catholic Herald reports that a source close to the Vatican said the document is part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics. [/quote] Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 (edited) [quote]The draft, which [b]discouraged the reception of communion in both kinds and limited the role of altar girls[/b], provoked an angry reaction from bishops in the English-speaking world. The Catholic Herald reports that a source close to the Vatican said the document is [b]part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist[/b] among Catholics. It is also [b]likely to challenge the view that the Second Vatican Council gave local bishops the authority to adapt the liturgy[/b]. It will also emphasise that Rome must guarantee the universality of the Mass.[/quote] This is literally a dream come true for me.... Wow! Edited March 16, 2004 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote]and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics[/quote] Amen to that. People don't acknowledge Our Lords Presence in the Tabernacle coming into Church anymore. When we go to recieve Our Dear Lord we should be crawling on our bellies. Thank You Jesus!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Mar 16 2004, 10:39 AM'] ...It will also emphasise that Rome must guarantee the universality of the Mass. [/quote] This is so important. Thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 phat-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Jättekul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 could you explain this to the protestant in the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 confusion after Vatican II and the liberal abuse of Vatican II doing stuff in the "spirit of Vatican II" made a lot of bishops think they can make personal adaptations to the Liturgy. this is not the way the Church works, however, becuase the Church seeks to make it so you could enter any Catholic Church anywhere and still participate in the same mass. i haven't seen the document, but i would hope it tightens the roll of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist, as they are now used as if they're ordinary. The priest is sposedta be the only minister of the Eucharist, and the extraordinary ministers are supposedta receive it from him not from each other, and other things. it's cuz we're a universal Church, we want universal uniformity as a visible sign of our unity. brother, don't concern yourself wit hit. hehe, it's just a matter of discipline, the Church is crackin down on disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 The time for experiments might be coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Ok, no offense, but I find this silly too. Oh well if you have to use laypersons to help distribute communion. Only the priest can conscencrate it. When I was a Lutheran I would aid in this all the time. It seems normal and biblical to me. And it seems silly to restrict a congregation to taking only one of the elements, if anything the "discipline" should be to take both. This is what we see in the Bible. Christ did not say "Oh, but don't worry, you can make up rules on all this, have your disciples take only one form or another, but not both, whatever seems to fit best". He said to "do this in remembrance of me". And "this" was taking the bread and the wine. Sorry, but you Catholics just confuse the daylights out of me sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 i don't understand the thing of under only one form. although i know He is fully present Body Blood Soul and Divinity under only one form, are they really planning on not making both forms available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson Weber Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 An excellent resource on the theology of the liturgy and its practical application can be found at [url="http://www.adoremus.org"]http://www.adoremus.org[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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