Paladin D Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [url="http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040303a.asp"]http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040303a.asp[/url] They're going to have talks today (3/16/04) on CBN about who will the next Pope be, and more about the subject of celibacy. Though this time, Pat says they're gonna bring somebody else on who will defend celibacy, so reveal [b]"both sides of the story."[/b] Anyways, CBN is on ABC, TBN, ABC Family, and I think PAX. You can later on watch it on the net, on their main page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote]And that policy change could also help alleviate the clergy shortage in the United States. Plus, Catholic scholars like psychiatrist A.W. Richard Sipes, say mandatory clergy celibacy is not working out so well currently. Sipes estimates that a mere 10 percent of U.S. priests have been able to maintain purity in celibacy. [/quote] Where did they come up with those numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ransom Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 (edited) Blaming the sex scandal on celebacy is like blaming adultry on marriage. If they were celebate there would have been no attacks. The vast majority of cases involved homosexual attacks on young teenaged boys. How would marriage alleviate that? As fsr as I see it, they are just continuing the attack on Holy Mother Church. Edited March 16, 2004 by ransom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 One day a future Pope will wake up.... Yawn... [rubbing the sleep out of his eyes...] What to do today? Hey, I'm going to end the requirement for celibacy... POOF. It is ended. It was formalized on a whim, and can and will end on one too. NOT a requirement, never was, isn't now. The math on vocations alone will work to this end. We have virtually no new Nuns and average age of Nuns is over 75, with priests is now around 63. With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. It is going to happen, and it will be one of the best things ever to happen for the Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 16 2004, 12:25 PM'] One day a future Pope will wake up.... Yawn... [rubbing the sleep out of his eyes...] What to do today? Hey, I'm going to end the requirement for celibacy... POOF. It is ended. It was formalized on a whim, and can and will end on one too. NOT a requirement, never was, isn't now. The math on vocations alone will work to this end. We have virtually no new Nuns and average age of Nuns is over 75, with priests is now around 63. With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. It is going to happen, and it will be one of the best things ever to happen for the Catholic Church. [/quote] Of course it was not formalized on a whim! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 16 2004, 11:25 AM'] With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. [/quote] [font="Courier"][b]Are you for real?[/b] How will "the homosexuality thing" become "immensely LESS of a problem" with this action? [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ransom Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Ah, Bruce is back to astound us with his blatant ignorance. Use facts as a smoke screen and twist the the truth to fit a position. Misquotes and half truths forged together to foster lies. Just flame and run, the tactics of a dim witted clown. My lent is now in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 Btw, I just saw the CBN program on the net (look on their main page). I saw the segment of the program where they talked about Celibacy in the Catholic Church. Guess who Pat Robertson invited to the show to defend the issue? [b]Deal Hudson[/b] of [i]Crisis Magazine[/i], he's the publisher for it. I believe he did a really good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ransom Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I commend Pat on actually inviting a real Catholic and not a fallen away preist or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 One day a future Pope will wake up.... Yawn... [rubbing the sleep out of his eyes...] [quote]What to do today? Hey, I'm going to end the requirement for celibacy... POOF. It is ended. It was formalized on a whim, and can and will end on one too. NOT a requirement, never was, isn't now. The math on vocations alone will work to this end. We have virtually no new Nuns and average age of Nuns is over 75, with priests is now around 63. With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. It is going to happen, and it will be one of the best things ever to happen for the Catholic Church.[/quote] Blind! Blind! Blind! [quote]"Woe to you scribes and Pharisess, you hypocrites. You lock the kingdom of heaven before human beings. You do not enter youselves, nor do you allow entrance to those trying to enter."[/quote] :confused: :confused: God's One Church will prevail! No matter what the devil throws it's way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 16 2004, 11:25 AM'] One day a future Pope will wake up.... Yawn... [rubbing the sleep out of his eyes...] What to do today? Hey, I'm going to end the requirement for celibacy... POOF. It is ended. It was formalized on a whim, and can and will end on one too. NOT a requirement, never was, isn't now. The math on vocations alone will work to this end. We have virtually no new Nuns and average age of Nuns is over 75, with priests is now around 63. With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. It is going to happen, and it will be one of the best things ever to happen for the Catholic Church. [/quote] No, Bruce, the problem isn't that priests aren't allowed to marry. Rather, it's that many priests have had deficient formation, and parents haven't encouraged their kids to consider the priesthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote]No, Bruce, the problem isn't that priests aren't allowed to marry. Rather, it's that many priests have had deficient formation, and parents haven't encouraged their kids to consider the priesthood. [/quote] Amen Brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Also, God calls his priests from the celibate, he doesn't call priests to be celibate. The first vocation must be discerned before the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 16 2004, 10:25 AM'] One day a future Pope will wake up.... Yawn... [rubbing the sleep out of his eyes...] What to do today? Hey, I'm going to end the requirement for celibacy... POOF. It is ended. It was formalized on a whim, and can and will end on one too. NOT a requirement, never was, isn't now. The math on vocations alone will work to this end. We have virtually no new Nuns and average age of Nuns is over 75, with priests is now around 63. With the stroke of a pen, the priesthood is replenished with good family men, the homosexuality thing is immensely LESS of a problem, and a heathy and long term solution is established. It is going to happen, and it will be one of the best things ever to happen for the Catholic Church. [/quote] Ummm, did you say "we" . . . are you claiming to be in the Church now? Cool. Oh, and those numbers are made up. Can you offer where you got them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I watched the CBN segment yesterday. Interesting, especially Pat Robertson's intro. He was DEFINATELY uncomfortable ... gave off the appearance of NOT wanting to do this segment, almost as if he was being forced to, and intimidated into doing it....odd in a way. If you know Pat, and I have watched him over the years, the change in body language was obvious. The Catholic speaker did a very good job, of course, defending the indefensible is a difficult thing, but he did a yoeman's job with it. AFTER the segment, Pat looked as if he had dodged a bullet from a firing squad... I wonder who and HOW they pressured him into this segment....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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