Doubt: Hoffman And Streep Movie

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Mercy me' post='1736147' date='Dec 27 2008, 01:48 AM']The USCCB does movie reviews and this is how theirs begins.




You can click [url="http://www.usccb.org/movies/d/doubt.shtml"]here[/url] for the full review. They don't seem to be objecting.[/quote]
The first thing I did when I considered seeing this movie is reading what the USCCB-OFB had to say about it. Yep, I'm a Catholic nerd.
But I read the part that you posted, and then I read the full review, and it doesn't seem to be anti-Catholic (which is kind of surprising), so I think I'll see it. It looks good.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
[quote name='Hassan' post='1728129' date='Dec 15 2008, 12:41 AM']Your face is a metaphore

Can you be a little specific? I'm actually really interested in what you mean.

Have you seen the movie? I'm interested in it, but I don't want to just see a Catholic bashing flick.[/quote]
agreed. on [b]every[/b] part.

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1737656' date='Dec 29 2008, 10:07 AM']The first thing I did when I considered seeing this movie is reading what the USCCB-OFB had to say about it. Yep, I'm a Catholic nerd.
But I read the part that you posted, and then I read the full review, and it doesn't seem to be anti-Catholic (which is kind of surprising), so I think I'll see it. It looks good.[/quote]
yeah, but i guess i just don't trust the USCCB film office ever since their review of the gay cowboys movie (name just slipped my mind).

[socalscout]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1737666' date='Dec 29 2008, 11:20 AM']+J.M.J.+

agreed. on [b]every[/b] part.


yeah, but i guess i just don't trust the USCCB film office ever since their review of the gay cowboys movie (name just slipped my mind).[/quote]

Brokeback Morals I mean "Mountain"

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
yeah, that's it.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='socalscout' post='1737678' date='Dec 29 2008, 12:40 PM']Brokeback Morals I mean "Mountain" [/quote]

I was watching that on Starz once and was thinking "hey this isn't so bad" but then the tent scene came on and the channel was quickly changed.

[YMNolan]

I'm sorry, I see no good reason to see this movie. It seems like the typical "controversial so it must be good" fanfare that comes around every year during Oscar season. You take the possibility of a sexually abusive priest, mix in an angry nun, and add a gay grade school kid and you've got yourself a hit. I'm sure the acting is stellar, but it's just not my cup of tea.

[kujo]

[quote name='YMNolan' post='1743323' date='Jan 5 2009, 12:31 PM']I'm sorry, I see no good reason to see this movie. It seems like the typical "controversial so it must be good" fanfare that comes around every year during Oscar season. You take the possibility of a sexually abusive priest, mix in an angry nun, and add a gay grade school kid and you've got yourself a hit. I'm sure the acting is stellar, but it's just not my cup of tea.[/quote]

Um....I think you are mistaking this movie for something else. There is no "gay grade school kid," nor is the nun particularly angry. She feels that she is right and that her interests are what is best for the young boy and the school as a whole. It's not controversial at all. You should see it. The abuse stuff is handled with a lot of class and doesn't make you feel uneasy at all. Again, I didn't even want to see it, but a priest friend of mine told me I should.

[VoTeckam]

[quote name='kujo' post='1743360' date='Jan 5 2009, 01:42 PM']It's not controversial at all. You should see it. The abuse stuff is handled with a lot of class and doesn't make you feel uneasy at all.[/quote]

Agreed. I thought the film carried a good message on how "absolutism" has no place in our relationships with one another. There are few things that we can know for certain. Even these people who devoted their lives to the service of God and the Church (things those of us here at phat mass believe in with certainty) have no magical insight to the complexities of the motivations of others. So "doubt" will always have a place in our lives.

[she_who_is_not]

I saw the movie this weekend. I found it thought provoking and a good reminder that religious are human and struggle in their relationships with one another and God.

Edited January 12, 2009 by she_who_is_not

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='kujo' post='1743360' date='Jan 5 2009, 01:42 PM']Um....I think you are mistaking this movie for something else. There is no "gay grade school kid,"[/quote]
You must have missed that scene.


I just saw it, finally.
I thought the acting was spectacular.
The subject matter/underlying message? Meh.

I noticed that they really didn't seem to know much about the Church (everyone kept referring to the "sermon", which didn't have anything to do with any conceivable gospel reading, the fact that the priest kept wandering out from behind the ambo during his homily, etc), and I actually found myself on the side of Streep's character (especially since the priest kept pushing for a "changing" Church).

All in all....hmm, 3 1/2 stars.

[Winchester]

What's "Catholic basing"?

[DemonSlayer]

Basing stuff on Catholics or Catholicism?

[Moosey]

I'll pass. It may not be Catholic bashing but it's pushing the whole progressive Catholic thing.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

Isn't the Nun who is certain without proof, simply a metaphor for the Church? I think the Author is trying to say the Church should not be so certain. That's the way I saw it.

[Brother Adam]

I agree with the blu-ray reviewer on another website who said what makes the movie great is it leaves you completely uncertain in the end - there is no closure or answer. I've added it to my netflix queue