Fidei Defensor Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [url="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/12/081203-homo-sapien-missions.html"]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...n-missions.html[/url] [quote]Modern humans may have evolved more than 80,000 years earlier than previously thought, according to a new study of sophisticated stone tools found in Ethiopia. The tools were uncovered in the 1970s at the archaeological site of Gademotta, in the Ethiopian Rift Valley. But it was not until this year that new dating techniques revealed the tools to be far older than the oldest known Homo sapien bones, which are around 195,000 years old. Using argon-argon dating—a technique that compares different isotopes of the element argon—researchers determined that the volcanic ash layers entombing the tools at Gademotta date back at least 276,000 years. Many of the tools found are small blades, made using a technique that is thought to require complex cognitive abilities and nimble fingers, according to study co-author and Berkeley Geochronology Center director Paul Renne. Some archaeologists believe that these tools and similar ones found elsewhere are associated with the emergence of the modern human species, Homo sapiens. "It seems that we were technologically more advanced at an earlier time that we had previously thought," said study co-author Leah Morgan, from the University of California, Berkeley. The findings are published in the December issue of the journal Geology. Desirable Location Gademotta was an attractive place for people to settle, due to its close proximity to fresh water in Lake Ziway and access to a source of hard, black volcanic glass, known as obsidian. "Due to its lack of crystalline structure, obsidian glass is one of the best raw materials to use for making tools," Morgan explained. In many parts of the world, archaeologists see a leap around 300,000 years ago in Stone Age technology from the large and crude hand-axes and picks of the so-called Acheulean period to the more delicate and diverse points and blades of the Middle Stone Age. At other sites in Ethiopia, such as Herto in the Afar region northeast of Gademotta, the transition does not occur until much later, around 160,000 years ago, according to argon dating. This variety in dates supports the idea of a gradual transition in technology. "A modern analogy might be the transition from ox-carts to automobiles, which is virtually complete in North America and northern Europe, but is still underway in the developing world," said study co-author Renne, who received funding for the Gadmotta analysis from the National Geographic Society's Committee for Research and Exploration. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.) Morgan, of UC Berkeley, speculates that the readily available obsidian at Gademotta may explain why the technological revolution occurred so early there. Complicated family tree The lack of bones at Gademotta makes it difficult to determine who made these specialist tools. Some archaeologists believe it had to be Homo sapiens, while other experts think that other human species may have had the required mental capability and manual dexterity. Regardless of who made the tools, the dates help to fill a key gap in the archaeological record, according to some experts. "The new dates from Gademotta help us to understand the timing of an important behavioral change in human evolution," said Christian Tryon, a professor of anthropology from New York University, who wasn't involved in the study. If anything, the story has now become more complex, added Laura Basell, an archaeologist at the University of Oxford in the U.K. "The new date for Gademotta changes how we think about human evolution, because it shows how much more complicated the situation is than we previously thought," Basell said. "It is not possible to simply associate specific species with particular technologies and plot them in a line from archaic to modern."[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [quote name='fidei defensor' post='1719159' date='Dec 4 2008, 08:54 PM'][url="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/12/081203-homo-sapien-missions.html"]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...n-missions.html[/url][/quote] Cool, that's pretty interesting. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Sometimes I think that it isn't just the evolutionary leaps that lead to tool improvements, but that tool improvements lead to evolutionary leaps. It would be interesting to see if these were homo heidelbergensis rather than archaic homo sapiens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake3981 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) [quote name='CatherineM' post='1719180' date='Dec 4 2008, 08:19 PM']Sometimes I think that it isn't just the evolutionary leaps that lead to tool improvements, but that tool improvements lead to evolutionary leaps.[/quote] Very interesting point. BTW - I love your writing dog picture. Every time I see it it makes me grin Edited December 5, 2008 by Snowflake3981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [quote name='Snowflake3981' post='1719336' date='Dec 4 2008, 09:36 PM']Very interesting point. BTW - I love your writing dog picture. Every time I see it it makes me grin[/quote] I can't look at a basset without laughing. I raised them for over 25 years. I left my last one in Florida when I moved to Canada. He was used to walking on the beach everyday, and I just couldn't bring myself to drag him up here. We had dozens of people who wanted him at the little league. He went to a family with t-ballers, his favorite age group. When I last saw him, he was curled up in bed with a 7 year old little boy. I know he's very happy going to the ball park everyday, but I do miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 News like this is bitter sweet. Sweet because if the discovery is backed by authentic science, then we know more about history. Bitter because it's science readjusting what it previously claimed to be truth. Certain people latch on to a published report as gospel and fail to realize parts of science are more like art than science. In the case of this story, little to no harm was committed, but what happens when science commits an "oops. our mistake." with issues that can have a much larger impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I'm curious as to how old they thought these people were in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpareTime Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) [quote name='kamiller42' post='1722461' date='Dec 8 2008, 12:53 PM']News like this is bitter sweet. Sweet because if the discovery is backed by authentic science, then we know more about history. Bitter because it's science readjusting what it previously claimed to be truth. Certain people latch on to a published report as gospel and fail to realize parts of science are more like art than science. In the case of this story, little to no harm was committed, but what happens when science commits an "oops. our mistake." with issues that can have a much larger impact.[/quote] seems like you have a misunderstanding of what the entire basis for scientific study actually is. science does not preach[i][b] truth[/b][/i] as you and i understand truth. science will always seem to be "changing", it will always be developing. that's how life works. we work with what we know from the evidence available. as technology develops more, we can study things in more depth or detail than we were able to before. once upon a time people did not know that the body was made up of tiny things called cells, so they probably explained it in much broader terms like flesh, bones, hair, etc. the problem, in my opinion, which you already mentioned..is when people view science as something that is finished. science will continue developing until the end of time, we will always be learning new things. Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. Albert Einstein Edited December 9, 2008 by SpareTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Does that mean we're ready for retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1719419' date='Dec 5 2008, 12:27 AM']I can't look at a basset without laughing. I raised them for over 25 years. I left my last one in Florida when I moved to Canada. He was used to walking on the beach everyday, and I just couldn't bring myself to drag him up here. We had dozens of people who wanted him at the little league. He went to a family with t-ballers, his favorite age group. When I last saw him, he was curled up in bed with a 7 year old little boy. I know he's very happy going to the ball park everyday, but I do miss him.[/quote] i love dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 [quote name='SpareTime' post='1723132' date='Dec 9 2008, 10:46 AM']seems like you have a misunderstanding of what the entire basis for scientific study actually is. science does not preach[i][b] truth[/b][/i] as you and i understand truth. science will always seem to be "changing", it will always be developing. that's how life works. we work with what we know from the evidence available. as technology develops more, we can study things in more depth or detail than we were able to before. once upon a time people did not know that the body was made up of tiny things called cells, so they probably explained it in much broader terms like flesh, bones, hair, etc. the problem, in my opinion, which you already mentioned..is when people view science as something that is finished. science will continue developing until the end of time, we will always be learning new things.[/quote] You have a misunderstanding of my response. I agree with your points. That is the way science should be perceived, but it isn't. Science announces a discovery, and it becomes gospel, an inarguable truth. This is obsessively true for the media. For the media and too much of the public, theories are laws. This is the beginning of my worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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