How Did Christ Dying On The Cross Please God ?

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[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1720937' date='Dec 6 2008, 03:10 PM']I have to make this quick.

Your first post:
And what does this have to do with whether or not people go to Hell?

Your second post:
These are angels praising God

Your third post:
You missed the key phrase: [b]These are they who have come out of the great tribulation;[/b]
I.e., Christians

What you are claiming right now is mind-boggling. If no one goes to Hell for sin, then why did Christ come to earth? Why did He die for us? Why does Hell exist? Why does sin exist? Why are we tempted? Why bother going to Confession for mortal sin if we go to Heaven anyway?

You are preaching a heretical theology.
You are also ignoring the Biblical references and passages from the Catechism which state [b]in blatant terms[/b] that many will go to Hell.

This is very scary.[/quote]

Gods original plan since the beginning of time was for everyone to go home to The One True Creator. The fact that there are passages that might possibly lead to an insight is a very hopeful blessing.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='nvzbl' post='1720965' date='Dec 6 2008, 03:38 PM']Gods original plan since the beginning of time was for everyone to go home to The One True Creator. The fact that there are passages that might possibly lead to an insight is a very hopeful blessing.[/quote]

You have ignored more than half of what I have said.

Here is a thread to continue this:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=88174"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=88174[/url]

[Guest nvzbl]

Sorry, Im not gonna debate you.

[HisChildForever]

The only difference between that thread and this one is where it is placed in the forum.

[Guest]

[quote name='Fr. Bruno' post='1720374' date='Dec 5 2008, 06:52 PM']I would say it this way :
First, his sacrifice pleased God because God is love, and there is no greater love than to offer your live for those whom you love ; especially when this love goes so far as to accept the most cruel tortures...
Second, because men separated from God because of disobedience ; Christ accepted death in full obedience to God. The only way to repair our disobedience was by Jesus' obedience.

Not that God himself required such a cruel death. Yet it is true that even such a perfect sacrifice can only those only who become members of Christ through obedience. My personal interpretation is that this sacrifice was needed not because God required such a terrible suffering from his own Son (neither from any other human being), but because our sinful nature needed such a perfect act of love and obedience in order to touch our hearts, to make us discover the depth of God's love and thus bring us to conversion.
I'm not sure whether I expressed this well. Feel free to disagree or to correct me with some wise quotes or disturbing questions.[/quote]


Whats up Fahter Bruno
I really like your explination about our sinfull nature needing a perfect act of love and obedience in order to touch our hearts, make us discover the depth of Gods love and thus bring us to conversion. Thanks and Godbless !

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1720949' date='Dec 6 2008, 04:21 PM']Jesus Christ is the God-man, having a human nature and a divine nature united in one Person. So while Jesus the boy was learning to use a saw at his father's knee, Jesus the Son of God who created the universe was present as well.[/quote]


whats up cmom
that is hard to phathom, the little boy who created the universe
wow
lol
godbless