Ufo’s, Extraterrestrials And The Catholic Church

[cmotherofpirl]

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE / Hamlet Act 1. Scene V abt. 1601



If you look at the pictures from Hubble etc, do ya really think God made ALL of this just for us?
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We have been on Thulcandra and prisoners of the Bent One for a long time...

[Saint Therese]

I don't have a problem with thinking that God made "all of that" just for us, since He was willing to die for us. That must indicate that our value and worth is pretty high to the good Lord.
I posted a thread on here some time ago about this. Some speculate that so called abduction experiences are experiences of the demonic. Even if they aren't, what these people relate is truly evil: physical violation and torture, sexual violation and torture, etc.

Edited March 11, 2009 by Saint Therese

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Saint Therese' post='1803442' date='Mar 11 2009, 02:36 AM']I don't have a problem with thinking that God made "all of that" just for us, since He was willing to die for us.[/quote]
However he could have made others that didn't bite the apple, and screw up things for their whole race.

[Guest]

[quote name='Saint Therese' post='1803442' date='Mar 11 2009, 12:36 AM']Some speculate that so called abduction experiences are experiences of the demonic. Even if they aren't, what these people relate is truly evil: physical violation and torture, sexual violation and torture, etc.[/quote]


Marks of the Demonic


So what leads me to believe these beings and their phenomena are demonic in origin? Well, it is because they have very similar signatures to that of known demonic earthly activity.



Demonic activity almost always follows a certain pattern. There are certain signs by which one can discern whether or not a demon is involved. Some of these signs are as follows: Strange noises; such as rappings, scratchings, poundings and even the sounds of tumult; the movement of objects (especially large objects) with no possible natural cause (this is called Infestation); a sense of oppression and violent temptations (this is called Oppression); overwhelming terror producing an animal-like fear and panic; production of sudden unexplained storms, earthquakes and temptests; the disappearance of things without any natural explanation; the presence of apparitions, ghosts, and apparently solid creatures intent on frightening those to whom they appear; physical attacks upon a person causing them pain and harm (this is called Obsession); the appearance of disease and pestilence without any medical or scientific explanation, (these diseases are usually very hard to cure or eliminate through medical remedies); acts of violence and evil perpetrated by an individual human or group of individuals that go beyond the natural evils that humans do to one another; finally, the most terrible manifestation of the demonic is found in their ability to enter and inhabit an individual's body (this is called Possession).



Now it must be noted that the reason for demonic attacks upon human beings are three fold: First, to distract our minds from God and the salvation of our own souls by turning us to focus on them and their activity: Second, to create a sense of terror, panic, emotional distress, and finally despair in the love and goodness of God: Third, to beaver dam the soul of the one possessed and to influence toward damnation those around them. In cases of possession there can be a fourth reason and that is to attack the priest who will be called in to exorcise the demon.

[Guest]

If aliens do exist perhaps there are evil and good just like the angels.
I dont think they are green tiny men if they exist either.
I wouldnt be suprised if they were in human form.
Perhaps already here without us even knowing it.
Mabey with their hands on freemasonry.
Just saw a special on freemasonry on ewtn the other night.
Scary stuff.

Edited March 11, 2009 by Guest

[Guest]

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[LouisvilleFan]

[quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1801248' date='Mar 9 2009, 08:20 AM']“The Lord certainly did not limit His glory to this small Earth. On other planets other beings exist who did not sin and fall as we did."
- St. Padre Pio of Pietrelcina (1887-1968), canonized June 16, 2002[/quote]

Interesting quote... got a context or at least a date for it?

Wouldn't it be interesting, considering all the sci-fi stories we've created about hostile aliens coming here to destroy us and consume our natural resources, if whenever we finally came face-to-face with an alien race and discovered them to be holier than even our greatest saints... that we couldn't stand them and became the hostiles against them?

Maybe that's why they're forever remain relegated to obscure 3am accounts in the New Mexico desert...

[cmotherofpirl]

Have you read C.S.Lewis's Space Trilogy?

[Guest]

[quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1803621' date='Mar 11 2009, 08:58 AM']Interesting quote... got a context or at least a date for it?

Wouldn't it be interesting, considering all the sci-fi stories we've created about hostile aliens coming here to destroy us and consume our natural resources, if whenever we finally came face-to-face with an alien race and discovered them to be holier than even our greatest saints... that we couldn't stand them and became the hostiles against them?

Maybe that's why they're forever remain relegated to obscure 3am accounts in the New Mexico desert...[/quote]

no i dont i'll try to find...

and that is a very interesting theory....

[Guest]

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Friends,

Finally I have obtained an English translation of the unprecedented paper Monsignor Balducci gave me at our historic Meeting in Rome in December (2002). In this seminal work, the Monsignor-theologian, (who is the Pope's choice as Chief Exorcist for the Archdiocese of Rome/Vatican itself), not only makes an air-tight case for the reality and acceptability of Star Visitor contacts with humans, but argues that these Visitors are more highly intellectually and spiritually evolved than humans.

The Monsignor gave me a copy of this Paper, and intends to share it with his Vatican colleagues. It must also be the first document by a high-level churchman to mention Area 51, Nevada.

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

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UFOLOGY AND THEOLOGICAL CLARIFICATIONS

(Monsignor Corrado Balducci - Pescara, June 8th. 2001)

Premise.

Over the last 150 years it have appeared sequentially and
with an increasing spreading and frequency rate, two types of manifestations and phenomena, very different between them, but both so interesting, controversial and fascinating to divide public opinion into two different aspects: or everything is real, or well everything is false. These are spiritualism and ufology. It shouldn't surprise us this approach, because it's related only to the reactions and behaviour of the public before these two phenomena and not to their contents, obviously quite different between both of them

Regarding spiritualism, this is a practice for which
there are testimonies across the centuries; in 1847, with the sisters Fox in Hydesville (New York), it had a special remark and spread rapidly in several countries. Very soon there was an explanation for the phenomena connected to such practices, even by the scientists: the souls of the disincarnated, better said of the dead people, are the cause of this. This was called the spiritualist hypothesis, against which theologians soon opposed to the so called demonic hypothesis.

Only by the end of XIX century there were made the first
attempts to look for a natural explanation, and finally in 1922, with the thick book of the French scientist Charles Richet, Traitè de Mètapsychique , it began officially the so called Metapsychics, nowadays better known as Parapsychology.

When I began with my demonic and metapsychic studies back in 1950, I found myself in a period when, since two decades ago, it was denied the existence of spiritualist phenomena (and not only by some scientists, but also by a very wide public opinion), that represented at that time the most abundant cases of Metapsychics.

The same is valid since some decades on regarding
Ufology.

After this premise, we reach our subject, for which I
have two very brief clarifications to expose.

- The acronym UFO (Unidentified Flying Object), is used
here in a wider sense, or even better, including also the
existence of living beings in other planets.

- The aim of my intervention is to underline that
something real must exist in the phenomena, and how this does not contrast at all with Christian religion, being considered positive even among theologians.

Let's divide the speech in three points:

1. Something real must exist.

2. Theological considerations on the habitability of other
planets.

3. Some testimonies favourable to it.

I - UFO: Something real must exist.

This is a statement coming out from basic considerations
based upon common sense, human rationalism and upon a normal and possible course of our lives, considering not only individual and social aspects, but also religious.

In fact, today there is a great amount (still increasing)
of testimonies regarding the so called flying saucers or
spaceships and the extraterrestrials; and among them there are some coming from reliable persons, with a culture and initially non believers. There are already hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses in the world that state to have seen UFO's at least once. There are so many, even in a smaller amount, the testimoniescoming from the so called contactees.

If we consider this, it seems impossible to deny at a
rational level that something real does exist A totally sceptic behaviour is not justified at all, because a priori seems to be against to the elemental prudence suggested by the good sense.

It is also real that we could think rationally that so
large average of testimonies could be due to illusions,
hallucinations and to states of intense suggestion. In other cases it could be also due to particular light effects or well to atmospheric phenomena, such as clouds that over the mountains may show a shape similar to the flying saucers; we could use as an example the so called ball rays or well globular flashes of lighting.

Other times UFO's could be confused with certain types of round-shaped aeroplanes, that were certainly built in USA since the so called Cold War (it is also certain that Russia built some aeroplanes of this type). This promoted in the period after World War II, the spreading of the idea that flying saucers were nothing else but new inventions with warring aim, obviously kept secret.

But these are always inaccurate explanations and
considerations to explain the number of testimonies and the wideness of UFO phenomenon. The most severe and hard criticism could reduce largely this number, but never will be able to eliminate all of them.

We also have to remember that in several countries exist
places, organisations and associations that collect evidences and testimonies on tape, in order to make them examine and study by experts and scientists as necessary; after that the whole set is catalogued in explainable and non explainable phenomena. It is not any longer a secret the existence of the so called Area 51 in the United States, within a zone in the hearth of the Nevada desert; an enormous land area that has a larger construction
underground than on the surface. In France is famous the SEPRA association; in Italy there is the CUN, Centro Ufologico Nazionale (National Ufological Centre), already on its 36th. year of existence, and with Dr. Roberto Pinotti as President since long ago; also in Italy there is since 4 years until now the CIFAS ( Council of International Federation of Advanced Studies )
dedicated to study the relationships between man and
extraterrestrial space, which President is still Gen. Salvatore Marcelletti.

Regarding the existence of something real within UFO
phenomenon, I must add another consideration that was left for last to better underline its importance. And this is, that a generalised, systematic and total incredulity finally would weaken and destroy the value of human testimony, with serious and unforeseeable consequences, because that is the base of life not only individual and social, but also religious.

In fact, testimony is a form of communication of our
faith in our partner. This is a widely spread way on daily life (when listening news, spending, buying, etc.). Let's imagine what could happen on individual and social life if the value of human testimony was weaken, with the logical decrease and disappearance of that faith many times is essential for daily life.

After this, I have extended such inconveniences to
religious life; in fact, also Christian religion is based upon human testimony, being the Divine Revelation an historical fact.

In 1937 Jesuit theologian Herbert Thurston wrote on
purpose: From a logical point of view, christians that accept miracles and other episodes related on the Gospel... they cannot reject in an obstinate way the reiterated testimonies of modern and reliable witnesses, that relate what their eyes have seen... All our Apologetic system is based upon the belief in the Truth said in the Gospel ( Church and Spiritualism ; Milan, 1937; p.p.
179). For that: systematic demolition and discredit of
humantestimonies regarding simple fact data, seem to me contrary in principle to all belief on the historic seriousness of Gospel, and indirectly, to every belief on Christian Revelation (Op. Cit. p.p. 157).

II. Theological and biblical considerations
on the habitability of other planets.


First of all a clarification: we should exclude that
angels use spaceships, due to the fact that they are merely
spiritual beings, and that they are wherever they want to be, and in the rare cases when they show themselves, they don't have any difficulty to assume a visible form. The very same we can say about dead people. Holy Virgin, in the very few cases when she could consider to be in contact with human people (very exceptional episodes and to be confirmed in their authenticity), continues to choose other very different ways to transmit us her
maternal affection, to manifest us her urgencies, to communicate us her maternal claims or to give us her sweet reproaches. Even keeping their angelic nature, we shouldn't think about the devils at all, because they are connected in their liberty to God on their extraordinary activity, and in that way they are disabled to express their terrible and malefic hate regarding us. Let's remember St. August: If the devil by his own initiative could do anything, even a single living being would not stay on Earth (ML 37, 1246); let's remember also to St. Buenaventura: Is so large the demon's cruelty, that he would swallow us in every moment, if Divine protection don't guard us ( Diaeta salutis , tit. 7 c.1, Verona 1748, p. 183).

Therefore, when speaking about extraterrestrials, we must
think in beings like us, or well and preferably in other types of living beings, that in their spiritual part they have associated a material one; better said, a body in a better state than the one existing for us as humans.

There is not a scientific certainty yet about this
problem, even if this seems to be closer and closer, thanks to the progress of science and study. Regarding the theological and biblical aspect of this matter, we can remark three points, three affirmations in favour from the various considerations:

1. Before all, that exist other inhabited planets is
something possible. In the Bible there are not specific allusions to other living beings, but neither is excluded this hypothesis, that for this stays as possible, if we think that God's omnipotence and wisdom have no limits, being infinite.

2. Furthermore, the existence of other inhabited planets
is something credible. In fact, there is a great diversity between angels, merely spiritual beings and us, composed by spirit and matter; better said, soul and flesh, but a soul that cannot act if don't use the body as an instrument; a body that makes with its passions and capital vices conditional the soul to the point of make human person so fragile, and more devoted to evil than to goodness. Therefore is credible that this enormous distance
between us and the angels could be reduced by the presence of beings that, having also a body (even if more perfect), their soul is less conditioned on their intelligent and volitional acting.

If necessary, there is another confirmation upon the very
ancient saying of Lucrezio Caro: Natura non facit saltus ; a very famous phrase (that I found on the De rerum natura ) and quoted - regarding that argument - also by some theologians.

Another consideration is taken for the aim of the
creation, or well the Glory of God, a concept that you can find several times on the Bible. For instance, Psalm 18 begins by saying precisely: heavens sing the glory of God. But only human person is able to give this glory to God in a conscious way, because it has intelligence and free will.

Precisely for this, several theologians say, is not only
possible but credible, that in the spaces that are distant and inaccessible for men and his scientific instruments, do exist other beings able to know God as their Creator, and also they give Him this Glory, that for them and their worlds represent the aim of Creation.

Jesuit Father Domenico Grasso, Professor of Theology at
the Pontifical Gregorian University wrote on purpose: Why all the perfection God has spread so widely in the universe should be kept hidden without singing the glory of God? Wouldn't it be a discordance unsuitable for God? Who writes a book knowing that it will never be read by anyone, or well who paints a painting to hide it from anyone's sight? .

He claims regarding the statements made by German
theologian Joseph Pohle in one of his books of 1904 (page 457): It seems to be accordingly with the aim of the world that inhabitable celestial bodies are settled by creatures that recognise the glory of God in the physical beauties of their worlds, in the same way man does with his smaller world ( Die Sternewelt undihre Bewohner - The Stars of Universe and its Inhabitants ; Köln 1904; pp. 457). Finally Father Grasso concludes: we must think in the angels to know where God receives the glory from these worlds from, because them, that are purely
spiritual, are not able to know the matter but indirectly, in the same way man does with the spirit (ib.).

3. Beyond to be something possible and credible, I would
see desirable the inhabitability of other planets. In a future, even if very remote, these eventual inhabitants, superior to us, could be very helpful to us, specially in our spiritual path. In a non practical way, they could had been protecting and helping us since long time ago.

If it is the case that they do really exist intelligent
beings on other planets, it would be easier to understand how to conciliate their existence with the redemption of Christ. As St. Paul says (cfr. Col. 1, 16-17), a real fact is that Christ is the centre and head of the creation of the universe. Therefore there are no worlds without a reference of Him. From the Bible is possible to assure that Christ, as Incarnated Verb, has total influence upon all the possible inhabited planets.

I quote what said by St. Paul to the Colossians: For by
Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on Earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things and in Him all things consist... For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell. And by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross (Col. 1, 16-20).

The Church celebrates the last Sunday of the Liturgical
Year (before the Advent) as the Feast of Christ, King of the universe, and in its liturgy the universality of His kingdom is remembered, which is also expressed in the daily Mass.

III. Algunos testimonios a favor.

There exist several interesting statements on the
inhabitability of other worlds by lay scientists, theologians or servants of God which already qualified for a process of beatification or canonisation. Obviously I'll limit myself to quote just some of them.

Beginning with the laymen, let me quote the great French
scientist Charles Richet (1850 - 1935), that was, among otherthings, a materialist. In 1922, in his Traitè de Mètapsychique, he stated: Do we have any right to claim, just because of our limited senses and our mistaken intelligence, that man is the only intelligent being in this immense cosmos?... That other intellectual forces, different from us, exist, is not only possible but extremely probable. It is even certain... It is absurd to claim that we are the only intelligence in nature... The existence of these beings cannot be proven, but the probability of their existence is evident (loc. cit., Paris 1922, pp. 787-788).

I remember 5 theologians:

1. Cardinal Nicolò Cusano (1401 - 1464), philosopher and scientist that said: We are not authorised to exclude that on another star beings do exist, even if they are completely different from us.

2. The Jesuit Father and astronomer Fr. Angelo Secchi
(1818 - 1876) wrote: It is absurd to claim that the worlds
surrounding us are large, uninhabited deserts and that the meaning of the universe lies just in our small, inhabited planet.

3. The famous Dominican preacher Jacques-Marie-Louis
Monsabre (1827 - 1907) referred to the principle Natura non facit saltus when he claimed that other intelligent beings besides men and angels exist.

4. The already quoted English Jesuit Father Herbert
Thurston wrote: Who can claim that there are no other intelligent beings besides these 3 categories of angels, demons and men in the Universe of God? I do not intend to confirm the possibility I indicated in my question as a fact, but I ask: Who can be sure about it? (Op. Cit., pp. 3).

5. German Theologian Giuseppe Pohle: Hypothesis of the plurality of inhabited worlds is totally favourable to the glory of the Lord. God creates for His glory, and any glory is possible without intelligent beings, able to know the creation of the Lord.

I remember two persons for whom there is already
going on their process of canonisation:

1. The Salesian Father and Servant of God Don Andrea
Beltrami (1870 - 1897) who prayed also for the possible
inhabitants of other planets. Of the 16 booklets he wrote, one seems to deal with this topic (and I say seems because unfortunately I was not able to know the titles of his 16 publications).

2. The second (with whom I want to close this paper), is
the already sanctified Padre Pio, who was beatified by Pope John Paul II on May 2, 1999 and canonised on June 16, 2002. From St. Fr. Pio, the following dialogue is documented and officially published by the Cappuchin Order:

Question: Father, some claim that there are creatures of God on other planets, too . Answer: What else? Do you think they don't exist and that God's omnipotence is limited to this small planet Earth? What else? Do you think there are no other beings who love the Lord? .

Another question: Father, I think the Earth is nothing
compared to other planets and stars . Answer: Exactly Yes, and we Earthlings are nothing, too. The Lord certainly did not limit His glory to this small Earth. On other planets other beings exist who did not sin and fall as we did. (Don Nello Castello: Così parlò Padre Pio ; Vicenza, 1974).

Lac. Corrado Balducci

Rome, C. 7 / 6 / 2001

Edited March 11, 2009 by Guest

[Saint Therese]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1803446' date='Mar 11 2009, 01:38 AM']However he could have made others that didn't bite the apple, and screw up things for their whole race.[/quote]
Would that make them perfect? Or Gods? Or maybe angels? I think the Church would have a lot to say about sentient being not in need of redemption. Beings who didn't need God?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Saint Therese' post='1805180' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:56 PM']Would that make them perfect? Or Gods? Or maybe angels? I think the Church would have a lot to say about sentient being not in need of redemption. Beings who didn't need God?[/quote]
All beings need God, but it doesn't necessarily follow that all beings sinned as Adam and Eve, and needed a savior.

[Saint Therese]

Mary didn't sin, but she had a savior.

EVen if there were, for argument's sake, other sentient beings somewhere, we would definitely be the most important, since Jesus was a man.

[saintwannabe 777]

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found this to be pretty interesting. i dunno if i posted this in the right section. godbless





[font="Arial Black"]UFO’s, Extraterrestrials and the Catholic Church[/font]



Countless books, movies, television shows and radio programs have been written and produced describing mankind's encounters with alien beings from other planets. In fact it is so commonplace now that our very language and culture has been affected by these concepts. Nonetheless, I am sure you have heard very little if anything mentioned by the Catholic Church or any other denomination for that matter. In this brief article I wish to touch upon the concept of extraterrestrials, their existence or nonexistence and if they did existence what this would mean for Roman Catholics.



[font="Arial Black"]Do Extraterrestrials

Exist? [/font]



It would appear from all the evidence that something is out there. Countless men and women throughout the world having had no contact with each other have nonetheless reported encounters with alien spacecraft, aliens themselves or being abducted by aliens into their spacecraft. Could all those people be lying? Are they all delusional? Evidence seems to indicate the contrary. I would say many of us, if we have not had our own experience of these "Outworlders", know of someone within our immediate sphere of influence who have had an alien encounter of one kind or the other.



There are four kinds of encounters. Encounters of the First Kind are sightings of alien spacecraft. Encounters of the Second Kind are hard evidence left by UFOs. Encounters of the Third kind are contacting with aliens themselves and Encounters of the four kinds are abductions. These are the designated types of encounters with extraterrestrials gleaned from the thousands upon thousands of reported encounters. A whole industry has risen up to accommodate the plethora of sightings every year by simple uneducated rural folk to sophisticated doctors, lawyers, military officers and astronauts.



So what does all this mean? Do Unidentified Flying Objects exist or are they simply the product of some mass hallucination? Are there extraterrestrial beings with enough intelligence to have created interstellar travel or are we alone in the universe?



[font="Arial Black"]Encounter of the

First Kind[/font]



We have seen that the witnesses of these events are not crazies or nuts. They tend to be ordinary folk. The majority of encounters are of sightings. And there have been countless sightings by pilots of both commercial airlines and military aircraft.



While my Uncle was in the Navy he had a close encounter of the first kind. It turns out this was a sighting that "Project Blue Book" investigated and for which they found no earthly explanation.



The year was 1952. My Uncle was stationed at the U.S. Naval Base in San Diego, California. He was returning to base after a weekend leave. It was approximately 1:00 am. He and a buddy were walking under a covered walkway when suddenly his friend stepped outside the covered walkway and stopped dead in his tracks. He was looking up into the night sky his gaze fixed on something. My Uncle asked him what was wrong and all he could do was to point upward. As my Uncle stepped out from the covered walkway he looked up and saw two circular glowing disks hovering above the Base. One looked smaller than the other the largest being at least 300 feet in diameter did did. They hovered over the base for approximate 10 seconds glowing blue green. Both objects were completely silent. Suddenly they took off toward the north along the coastline. As they left, their hue changed from blue-green to a reddish-orange color. They were out of sight in 2 seconds. As they shot up the coast and out of sight my Uncle noticed that the one saucer which seemed smaller was actually hovering above the other saucer and was of equal size. They appeared as solid objects and showed dimension. He described them as "cigar shaped” when seen from a distance as they sped out of sight. They moved faster than any jet or known aircraft.



Now my Uncle is not given to telling tales nor is he one to exaggerate. In fact, these same two saucers were reported up the pacific coast by hundreds of people both military and civilian. They were actually reported only seconds after the sighting in San Diego by officials in Oregon and Washington. From the coast of Washington they made a sudden left turn out to sea and disappeared as they shot upward into space.



What's the point in my relating this story? Simply that there are those whom we trust implicitly and who have sworn to have told the whole truth about what they have seen. I believe, therefore, that the majority of these ordinary people are telling the truth and that they have seen something. The real question, then, is not IF they have seen something but WHAT have they seen.



[font="Arial Black"]What are UFOs?

and their Occupants[/font]



It is the general assumption of those who have studied this apparently universal phenomena that these objects and their occupants are extraterrestrial; i.e., from another planet in a solar system within our galaxy, the Milky Way. The theory is that these creatures have reached a higher level of evolution and their intelligence is as superior to ours as our intelligence is to gorillas. They have developed the possibility of space travel in vehicles that are capable of traveling through space at speeds that we have only fantasized about in science fiction stories.



[font="Arial Black"]Other Theories [/font]



A theory less popular then the one mentioned above but still posed by some people is that these creatures actually originate on Earth and come from under the sea. They are the survivors of the first age of the world, which was destroyed through natural disaster, and they are now reappearing to warn mankind of impending dramatic Earth changes.



Another theory says they are actually from our own solar system. The story goes that there is a twin planet "Earth" which is perfectly opposite the Earth on the other side of the sun and therefore undetectable.



Interdimensional travel is yet another theory. This theory claims that these creatures come from another dimension, a parallel universe as it were, which actually occupies the same space as we do but is in another dimension unseen and with which we are unable to communicate or even know of its actual existence.



There is also the theory that these are time travelers from our own future. According to this theory our future ancestors are the products of eons of evolution. They have returned to our time to investigate their origins and to help eventually advance the Race toward greater evolution.



[font="Arial Black"]The Reality[/font]


In actual fact, every one of these theories falls flat. Incredibly, with all the sightings and experiences of possibly millions of people since the late 1940's there is absolutely no hard evidence (of which we are aware) that indicates that these beings and the lights they produce in the sky are from another planet, another dimension, another time or from a lost civilization of the past. I personally love science fiction and am the first in line to see the latest SiFi movie that comes out. Nevertheless, we must accept the fact that everything we have in way of evidence such as "Area 51" "The Roswell Incident" and "Crop Circles" are nothing more than anecdotal stories with no public evidence that indicates these creatures are truly from another planet. Please understand, I am not saying there isn't something out there. WE ARE NOT ALONE! But when I say that we are not alone I do not mean what TV shows like "The X Files” or movies like "Independence Day" mean. Let me explain. Actually we are surrounded by millions of powerful beings which are purely spiritual and which are both good and evil. We call these beings, angels or demons depending upon which side of the eternal fence we are speaking. They surround us. They are in the very air, the sky the earth. They exist on another plane of existence than we do yet they are in constant contact with this world. They have powers beyond our comprehension and if one presented himself as God to us, unless we had the discernment of spirits we could very easily believe he was God or at least a god. Thus in ancient times demons appeared to men as gods demanding their worship and sacrifices. This was done in an effort to lead men into fear and away from the light of truth. Enslaving millions of human beings they would perform wonders to convince them of their divinity and nearly the whole world was in darkness.



As science and technology moved Western civilization toward new levels of affluence and secularism the worship of idols and a pantheon of gods became less and less prevalent. With the triumph of Christianity idolatry was all but eliminated except in a few cases. (Due to African influence idolatry and ritual witchcraft still exist today in false religions such as Voodoo and Santeria.) In the East, however, many millions of superstitious Hindus are still immersed in idolatry. Just recently the people of India were frenzied over a phenomena involving their idols. From Televised and eyewitnessed accounts the statues of their gods were drinking milk. Gallons of it in fact were disappearing into the mouths of these graven images and the people were falling down in worship before them. Now who would be responsible for such activity? Isn't it obvious that the demons were perpetrating the same hoax they have been doing to humans for thousands of years?



[font="Arial Black"]Our Search for Life[/font]



So what am I trying to say? Let me state it clearly. This UFO phenomenon witnessed by millions of people all over the world is simply the activity of demons. They are using the imaginations of men to perpetrate another more diabolical hoax on humanity. I know! I know! The secularists and the Modernists will hear this and instantly accuse me of being backward and just as superstitious as the Indians bowing before idols of metal and stone that drink milk. Their response will be that it's just a matter of time before I proclaim that in all reality the world is flat and those pictures of the Earth we’ve seen from space are merely fabrications. Not true. I believe in real science. It is an essential part of Man's nature to what to know as much as he can about everything. Nonetheless, to automatically accept the existence of extraterrestrials upon mere speculation and without any cold, hard evidence is not science; it's Science Fiction.



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The United States Government recently shut down funding for a NASA project called Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence or SETI. By using a Radio telescope a group of scientists came upon the idea that it should be possible to intercept radio waves broadcasted by extraterrestrial intelligence. The idea was based upon the scientific fact that since radio waves travel at the speed of light in all directions we should be able to pick up these waves with our instruments. If there are civilizations out there at least as advanced as our own then the universe should be filled by communication waves from these other intelligent beings. It was calculated that we should be able to intercept communication waves within a 20 light year radius. In other words, we should be able to pick up the transmission of alien cultures within a radius of 107,560,000,000,000 miles. Guess what happened? Well since the project began to scan the heavens in 1960 there have been no detectable alien broadcasts of any kind. In fact, the few times these scientist thought they found something it turned out to be Terrestrial in origin.



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So what leads me to believe these beings and their phenomena are demonic in origin? Well, it is because they have very similar signatures to that of known demonic earthly activity.



Demonic activity almost always follows a certain pattern. There are certain signs by which one can discern whether or not a demon is involved. Some of these signs are as follows: Strange noises; such as rappings, scratchings, poundings and even the sounds of tumult; the movement of objects (especially large objects) with no possible natural cause (this is called Infestation); a sense of oppression and violent temptations (this is called Oppression); overwhelming terror producing an animal-like fear and panic; production of sudden unexplained storms, earthquakes and temptests; the disappearance of things without any natural explanation; the presence of apparitions, ghosts, and apparently solid creatures intent on frightening those to whom they appear; physical attacks upon a person causing them pain and harm (this is called Obsession); the appearance of disease and pestilence without any medical or scientific explanation, (these diseases are usually very hard to cure or eliminate through medical remedies); acts of violence and evil perpetrated by an individual human or group of individuals that go beyond the natural evils that humans do to one another; finally, the most terrible manifestation of the demonic is found in their ability to enter and inhabit an individual's body (this is called Possession).



Now it must be noted that the reason for demonic attacks upon human beings are three fold: First, to distract our minds from God and the salvation of our own souls by turning us to focus on them and their activity: Second, to create a sense of terror, panic, emotional distress, and finally despair in the love and goodness of God: Third, to beaver dam the soul of the one possessed and to influence toward damnation those around them. In cases of possession there can be a fourth reason and that is to attack the priest who will be called in to exorcise the demon.



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In what way do the activities of demons bear similarity to those experienced by people who witness UFO phenomenon? Well the first and most obvious similarity is that focusing on UFOs and their occupants distracts us from striving for union with God and the salvation of our souls. If you have ever been around those who are interested in UFO phenomenon you will find that they become obsessed with the idea of extraterrestrials. They are so focused upon this sensational idea that they can hardly think of anything else. This would be most evident among those who have had personal experiences of the First and Third kinds of encounters.



Another, experience that indicates demonic activity is that these aliens inspire terror and fear within those who have had contact with them. They describe a feeling of terror similar to that of a caged or cornered animal; so primal, in fact, that it is very difficult for them to describe the panic and hopelessness they feel. The demons feed off of our negative emotions and so it is their modus operandi to inspire as many negative emotions as they can within their victims.



If you read accounts of abduction you will find that many times the memories of these abductions are buried so deeply within the subconscious of the victims that it takes hypnosis to bring it back to their conscious minds. The experience when relived causes the victim to feel the same terror they originally felt. Some would say that the very use of hypnosis to stimulate the subconscious borders on the occult and plays right into the hands of the demon.



The abductees often suffer from aliments that our medical doctors have not seen nor do they have any idea of how to treat or cure them. Often they have scratches on their bodies that will not heal (another similarity to those who have encounters with the demonic).



When a so-called alien enters into a room to abduct someone, things in the room begin to move on their own accord. The person is paralyzed and cannot move or even call out in fear. When taken to their "alien spacecraft" they find themselves powerless as these creatures begin to experiment upon them. All calculated to inspire fear and terror.


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I know of one incident where a man in Brazil was abducted near a spot where UFOs are frequently sighted. He remembers seeing the saucer and being taken up into it. He found himself lying on a table. He was able, with great effort, to reach into his pocket. He found his rosary and pulled it out and began praying loudly the Hail Mary. At that moment the aliens looked at him with anger and said, "Now you've spoiled everything." Within seconds he found himself outside the ship about 1000 miles from his home.



Interesting and provocative isn’t it? This man only needed to pray the rosary with faith and these so-called extraterrestrials could not stand it. It seemed painful to them. Now if they were merely extraterrestrial beings from another planet why would praying the rosary "spoil" their plans? This reaction by the "aliens" is just another example of how similar are the experiences of those who encounter the diabolic. There are innumerable incidents similar to this, which indicate that these creatures are merely demons playing their usual games with ignorant humans. What better way to deceive modern man than through the science he worships?


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There are so many things which the UFOlogists claim to be "proof" of our being visited by extraterrestrials that could just as easily be explained by the possibility that these experiences are created to look like they are extraterrestrial by demons who are malevolently bent on our deception and destruction. In reading many incidents of abduction I have found there is a very curious phenomenon that should be analyzed. Every time they find themselves in these "spacecraft" everything is filthy. The abductees constantly describe filth, garbage and trash everywhere. They also describe the aliens as well as the instruments they use to experiment upon them as being dirty. The wounds that are inflicted upon them usually become infected and the infections are very difficult to get rid of.



Why would these "superior" beings have no sense of cleanliness? We who are supposed to be so primitive know the basics of preventing infection and of cleanliness especially in and around the operating room. Yet according to most accounts these creatures are filthy and smell bad. This to me indicates another reason why we should not consider these creatures to be extraterrestrial but rather demonic in origin.



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The answer to the above question is an emphatic yes. There is no reason from a Roman Catholic point of view that we have to reject without possibility the existence of creatures like ourselves in other parts of the universe. Nonetheless, we can only accept this possibility within certain parameters. For instance, we must grant the fact that they have souls and are also made in the image and likeness of God just as we are. Therefore, they can be in only two states of existence. They are either fallen or unfallen. In other words, because they would be rational creatures made in the image and likeness of God they would also have to have been given the choice between embracing the One True God or the god of self. If they chose God they would have remained unfallen and would never have suffered the terrible twisting of their nature that origin sin brings. They, more than likely, would have no desire or need to go beyond their own boundaries. Their technology, if any, would be simple and practical. They would be the sovereigns of their own world and content within themselves. These humans (in whatever shape or form) would have no need to explore the universe. Finally since they would be unfallen they would not need the redemptive grace of Christ to free them from bondage to the Devil. They would essentially be what we would have been had we not fallen. This of course raises any number of questions that would be further theological speculation and which I do not have the space here to pursue. Suffice it to say these beings would not be in contact with us unless for some reason God Himself sent them to us as a grace. If this were to happen they would not be secretive but would present themselves visibly without stealth or subterfuge.



If there are others "out there" and they have a fallen nature then we must be very careful. For they may act exactly as these reports indicate. They would be under the influence of the Devil and would not have had the grace of Christ to lead them to the virtue for which God originally made them. If man can be as inhuman as he is to his own even with the redemptive grace of Christ to mitigate the effects of original sin how much more would fallen humans from another planet be possessed of a corrupt nature not having had the opportunity of Christ's redemptive grace to be given to them or their society? They could make Hitler and Stalin look like Saints.



It is important to remember that according to Catholic theology, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity became man suffering death "once and for all..." to save all those who have human souls from the damnation our sins deserve. Unless Jesus in His Risen Body appeared to myriads of humans throughout the universe to bring them the effects of His salvation directly, then these creatures would be under the complete dominion of Satan and would be very DANGEROUS. From all indication if my original thesis is incorrect and these are really extraterrestrials that so many people have seen, then their apparently complete lack of religion and reference to Christ, as well as, those who have experienced the alien’s actual repellence to the name of Christ and His Blessed Mother would indicate that we must approach them as possessed creatures and instruments of the Devil bent on our destruction. My advice is simple: If you ever have an encounter with these creatures make the Sign of the Cross and speak the names of Jesus and Mary repeatedly. If they are what I think they are it will drive them away and they will leave you alone.


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In truth book upon book could be written based solely upon theological speculation concerning the existence of intelligent extraterrestrials and their place within the providence of God. As long as we realize that their souls would have to abide by the same spiritual principles by which we ourselves must abide there are thousands of different ways we could speculate about this matter.



Until proven otherwise I’m sticking to my previous analysis of this phenomenon and remain convinced that these are merely demonic manifestations designed to distract and disturb those who encounter them. =[/quote]

I disgree, the aliens could still be in a friendship with God, if they exist. Earth could be the only planet that fell. If that is the case, then Older Bro Yeshua wouldn't have had to visit their planets.

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[quote name='saintwannabe 777' post='1813207' date='Mar 21 2009, 08:39 AM']I disgree, the aliens could still be in a friendship with God, if they exist. Earth could be the only planet that fell. If that is the case, then Older Bro Yeshua wouldn't have had to visit their planets.[/quote]


That would be so cool.