Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='picchick' post='1713407' date='Nov 29 2008, 02:57 AM']Yeah, I don't care anymore...what's the point of caring what people think right? That was one of the worst posts I have seen. I have probably made plenty of them myself but that was horrible. Why come on a public forum where there will be hundreds or thousands of people on here of all shapes, sizes, backgrounds, what have you and post something like that? I was overweight. Although I lost a lot of weight through exercise and what have you, I still remember the hurt that peope's words and actions and picture caused me. Now I could care less about what people say but I know the hurt. You think it is so easy to just drop the weight, huh? Yeah, you think it is. So, way to go, buddy. Hope you enjoy your time on phatmass.[/quote] I was overweight myself, over 20 pounds overweight. I dropped it with hard work in about 6 months. I don't respect irresponsible people who don't say, hey, I need to excercise and keep in shape. Some of the people I respect the most is people like this - Who went from - [img]http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/biggest-loser-mark-jay.jpg[/img] to - [img]http://icebarrel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mark-and-jay-biggest-loser-after.jpg[/img] If they can do it, anybody can. BTW, I can be pretty confident that the mast majority of overweight people are people who are just irresponsible, because over the past twenty years, the average dress size in America went from 8 to 14. . . Lots of people not excercising, unless our genetics suddenly went out of whack, and we're producing more overweight people because of slow metabolism. So if you excuse me, I would rather offend someone into excercising eveyr single day, if they are not, than to not say anything and let them die. Would you allow someone step in front of a bus? Or how about letting someone fall down stairs? Why then are we not saying, hey, lets get out and take walks every single day? Why are we so afraid of offending people who need our help to believe in themselves. I'm tough as nails as Bob is. I like him. He tells it like it is to each and every person in the biggest loser who is on his team. He pushes them to their limits, offends them, so they take their health seriously. If I disgust people, fine. I hope I digust someone enough to get off their butts and take a half hour walk, being angry at me for being offensive. Edited November 29, 2008 by Mr_Private_Person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='missionseeker' post='1713385' date='Nov 29 2008, 01:51 AM']in case you haven't noticed... people here tend to not be PC .. Dignity of persons (no matter how big or stupid or ugly or whatever other negative adjective you'd like to put here) - that we got down.[/quote] Being nice to people who are overweight has quadroplled the amount of people with Diabetis in the past twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Your disgusting posts in this thread will not motivate anyone to do much more than (a) be revolted by you and/or (b) feel bad about themselves. What do you look like, a Mr. Buff Hollywood Baywatch Star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1713413' date='Nov 29 2008, 03:20 AM']Your disgusting posts in this thread will not motivate anyone to do much more than (a) be revolted by you and/or (b) feel bad about themselves. What do you look like, a Mr. Buff Hollywood Baywatch Star?[/quote] No. But I went from overweight to average in six months because I took responsibility for my life. Anybody who doesn't, and there is the vast majority who haven't, and the stats don't lie, are irresponsible. Diabetis has gone up 400 per cent over twenty years. Dress sizes have went from 8 to 14 in the same time frame. Being nice is allowing people to murder themselves in gluttony. Or has the church stance on Gluttony changed. Gluttony is okay because you don't want to offend people! Edited November 29, 2008 by Mr_Private_Person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 So people who are overweight are: 1. Irresponsible 2. Don't deserve to be treated nicely Anything else you want to add before I report you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1713416' date='Nov 29 2008, 03:25 AM']So people who are overweight are: 1. Irresponsible 2. Don't deserve to be treated nicely Anything else you want to add before I report you?[/quote] Most are. Or why has the national average of diabetis gone up by 400 per cent, and the average dress size went from 8 to 14. Did we all of a sudden develop slower metabolism? The reason I know this for a fact is I didn't excercise regularly for about 4 years, and gained 50 pounds as a result. When I saw how much I weighed, I was ashamed of myself, for letting myself do that. So in the past 8 months, I worked out every day, walking, running, ect, ect, ect and took off over twenty pounds bringing me into a healthy weight. It happens to everybody, because people get lazy. We don't want to excercise. We know we should, but we don't, until we take our health seriously. Edited November 29, 2008 by Mr_Private_Person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Okay just those two points then? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1713418' date='Nov 29 2008, 03:33 AM']Okay just those two points then? Thanks!![/quote] I just tell it like it is. If the entire populace has decided not to take their health seriously, endangering themselves and their loved ones (as overweight parents give that habits to their children usually), then I would rather say something than let them die. How many obessetity related deaths have happened in the past 20 years? How many families have been effected? How many? Has being nice and polite to them helped them? No, the averages are only increasing and increasing, because people don't take care of themselves anymore, and nobody says a thing because it might offend people. So, if you want to be quiet and let your loved ones who are overweight and obese continue down their self-destructive way, then you are a coward and selfish. I will not. Edited November 29, 2008 by Mr_Private_Person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) ... Edited November 29, 2008 by Maximilianus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) :puts Mr. PP ahead of S'mores and Johnny-Fingers on the chump o meter scale: Edited November 29, 2008 by MIkolbe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='MIkolbe' post='1713449' date='Nov 29 2008, 04:16 AM']:puts Mr. PP ahead of S'mores and Johnny-Fingers on the chump o meter scale:[/quote] Cool! I'm a chump because I tell it like it is and I want to save people who are committing suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishSalesian Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713532' date='Nov 29 2008, 09:34 AM']Cool! I'm a chump because I tell it like it is and I want to save people who are committing suicide.[/quote] I wouldn't say you're a chump. I think that you are more of an ass. Personally, I do take care of my self, yet I am still over weight. I work hard to control my weight, but It stays the same. I diet, exercise. And I have lost some, but not alot. I have lost some inches on my waist, but I am still tipping the scales at 300+. I do not think it appropriate for you to criticize others for their weight by calling them irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Private_Person Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='IrishSalesian' post='1713539' date='Nov 29 2008, 10:10 AM']I wouldn't say you're a chump. I think that you are more of an ass. Personally, I do take care of my self, yet I am still over weight. I work hard to control my weight, but It stays the same. I diet, exercise. And I have lost some, but not alot. I have lost some inches on my waist, but I am still tipping the scales at 300+. I do not think it appropriate for you to criticize others for their weight by calling them irresponsible.[/quote] I didn't say someone was irresponsible because of their weight. People are implying that. But someone like yourself that exercises and eats right every day isn't irresponsible. You're being responsible and proactive about your health. You care. But lets say about 70-80 per cent (not 100 per cent) of the overweight people out there were just like me. They packed on the pounds in 5-10 years, going from lets say 150 to 200+, they never exercise, though they know they should. Someone who does that is the same as someone who goes $100,000 in debt to credit card companies. Hello, that's just irresponsible! That is why there is 4 times as many people with Diabetis and that the average dress size has gone from 8 to 14 in the past twenty years. So, to the people who made those numbers possible, who are just to lazy to go out and exercise, they're irresponsible. The people who don't exercise and eat and eat and eat like a glutton deserve every single obesity related disease they are being affected by right now, and in the end, 10 years from now, if they don't change, they're going to have a heart attack or stroke, and leave their families high and dry. And at the same time, the habits of lack of exercise and eating poorly are being taught to their children, because they show they don't care, and the children won't care either, and hence they sentence their children to early heart disease (what 18 year old should have hardened arteries because they eat greesy food too much), type two diabetis, and a huge variety of other obesity related diseases. I believe you have read how Jesus said anybody who offends (or hurts) a child, it would have been better for them to die in the deepest ocean. The parents who bring up children who never exercise are doing just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 There is a difference between motivating people to exercise and insulting them. I am a nurse. If I went around to all the people in the hospital who smoked and insulted them in order to get them to stop smoking, the result would be horrible. The same goes for anything here...including overweight people. You don't motivate people by insulting them. They get that enough. You motivate people in other ways. You think you are doing good by insulting people? You keep quoting Jesus. Do you really honestly think that Jesus would insult people to motivate them? How did Jesus talk to Mary Magdelene? How about the tax collector? The sinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelandic_iceskater Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713532' date='Nov 29 2008, 09:34 AM']...and I want to save people who are committing suicide.[/quote] which is why you rudely tell people they're fat and should go exercise. And post threads that make fun of overweight people. Newsflash: Some people, especially girls, can be VERY sensitive about their weight. Directly calling them overweight, or underweight for that matter, can have take a HUGE emotional toll. So some people struggle with their weight. Why don't you give them some positive encouragement and support, maybe uplift them a little? I understand that your intentions are good, but your means was entirely necessary. Messing with others self esteem can lead to all kinds of croutons. INCLUDING thoughts of suicide. You have NO RIGHT to degrade people like that. You do realize that the people in those pictures you posted are REAL PEOPLE, do you not? If you want to help out- encourage and uplift. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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