End Of The World

[Apotheoun]

As far as the world is concerned:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idUp9_h3PYw&fmt=18"][u]It's Not Over[/u][/url]

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713214' date='Nov 28 2008, 07:41 PM']Why do you try to dismiss what I say by asking me if I am a title?

I am a person, and I will ask you not to call me a name.[/quote]
But if he calls you a "person" that is a name too.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713214' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:41 PM']Why do you try to dismiss what I say by asking me if I am a title?

I am a person, and I will ask you not to call me a name.[/quote]

Yet, you've already given titles to Christians, Muslims, Jews, environmentalists, and "Religious fanatics."

So again do you or do you not believe in God or a god(s)?

[Mr_Private_Person]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1713222' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:45 PM']But if he calls you a "person" that is a name too.[/quote]

person is a neutral term, atheist, especially in a theist message board, is an antagonist term that I would prefer not to be called because that is not who I am. Atheist, Catholic, and all these are titles that are not who we are.

[Apotheoun]

Person is not a neutral term to some individuals. It is a metaphysically loaded term.

[jeffpugh]

... Doug?







Am I getting warm?

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713226' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM']person is a neutral term, atheist, especially in a theist message board, is an antagonist term that I would prefer not to be called because that is not who I am. Atheist, Catholic, and all these are titles that are not who we are.[/quote]

"Religious fanatic" is also a antagonist term.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1713232' date='Nov 28 2008, 07:50 PM']... Doug?[/quote]
Joe?

[Mr_Private_Person]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1713231' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:50 PM']Person is not a neutral term to some individuals. It is a metaphysically loaded term.[/quote]

I don't get too caught up in those high-minded philsophical man-made stuff. Men are so limited.

[Apotheoun]

Person is not really a philosophical term; instead, it is a theological term. The whole concept originated in Christian theology.

[jeffpugh]

Hmm...
@MPP
Where are you going with this, man?

Edited November 29, 2008 by Sacred Music Man

[Maximilianus]

He's trying to enlightening us with his non-philosophical, philosophical pragmatism...

[Mr_Private_Person]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1713249' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:55 PM']Person is not really a philosophical term; instead, it is a theological term. The whole concept originated in Christian theology.[/quote]

So, all other religions thought that nobody was a person?

What did they believe, that we were one thing, and there was no individualism!

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713268' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:00 PM']So, all other religions thought that nobody was a person?[/quote]
That is correct. Even Judaism only developed the concept after the rise of Christianity.

[quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713268' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:00 PM']What did they believe, that we were one thing, and there was no individualism![/quote]
Most religions thought of man as a jumble of transitory elements or states of being.

[Mr_Private_Person]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1713272' date='Nov 28 2008, 11:02 PM']That is correct. Even Judaism only developed the concept after the rise of Christianity.


Most religions thought of man as a jumble of transitory elements or states of being.[/quote]

Wow, a little bigoted aren't you?