cmotherofpirl Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 In 1900 deer were practically extinct in Pa, the population estimate in 2000 was over 1,500,000. That is a lot of protein walking around, many times in your own back yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntingknight Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='kafka' post='1713276' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:05 PM']Killing animals is not intrinsically evil since they are not moral agents, and have been placed on earth to serve men. So that covers the second font of morality which analyses the act itself in light of the moral law, therefore the overall act defaults to the first and third fonts of morality namely intention and circumstance (the consequences, and any other factors pertaining to the overall act). Good intentions could be hunting for the food, for recreation, to control over-population, even hunting for the hides could be moral to use for clothing or even selling and trading provided the good outweighs the bad. Bad intentions could be killing for the sake of cruelty. With good intention as long as the good consequences outweigh the bad, the overall act is moral. One bad consequence which could outweigh good ones is killing an instinct animal even with a good intention such as recreation, provided their are other animals not instinct which one could choose to hunt. Hope that helps. BTW, my dad shot a large doe today. Yay for him!!![/quote] Love your response thanks and when I went hunting I saw a decent sized buck but when I had him in my scope the fog lifted and then I could'nt see a thing. Good job for your dad. Edited November 29, 2008 by dauntingknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntingknight Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='Mr_Private_Person' post='1713406' date='Nov 29 2008, 01:56 AM']I hear killing cockroaches isn't sinful, so lets all go out and hunt them. [img]http://www.tow.com/photogallery/2006/20060411_roaches/images/fullsize/cockroaches.jpg[/img] I need to dust off my high powered sniper rifle.[/quote] I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1713555' date='Nov 29 2008, 11:33 AM']That was before the fall, there was no need to hunt then.[/quote] That's exactly my point-that it can be argued that the "perfect" situation is one that does not involve killing of any kind. I agree, I don't think it's intrinsically wrong to eat meat. I was just saying that I don't believe God [i]soley[/i] put animals here for us and I think we've gone way too far in exploiting animals for our own purposes. -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) Ay, sorry double post. Edited November 29, 2008 by Tinkerlina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 God was not surprised by the ancestral sin. He intended that animals be a part of man's food from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1713756' date='Nov 29 2008, 02:09 PM']God was not surprised by the ancestral sin. He intended that animals be a part of man's food from the beginning.[/quote] Hmmm, I don't know if I'd say he [i]intended[/i] it-I'd say he [i]allowed[/i] it just as he allowed other things that came as a result of the fall. Obviously, yes, He, being God, being omniscient, knew that sin would come into the world through Adam and Eve's sin, but it would seem that the state of being in the Garden of Eden is God's perfect intended state, even though humanity was dumb enough to ruin that. [i]Thanks[/i] Adam and Eve! -Katie PS: I don't meant to sound like I am pretending to know God's intentions-I'm just theorizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1713761' date='Nov 29 2008, 11:17 AM']Hmmm, I don't know if I'd say he [i]intended[/i] it-I'd say he [i]allowed[/i] it just as he allowed other things that came as a result of the fall.[/quote] God saw what man would do, and He prepared a proper form of sustenance for him (meat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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