Bruce S Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Long story, but suffice it to say, that for the past three weeks, I've attended daily "Mass" 7:30AM style....and NO...I'm NOT going to become a "Journey Homer" Catholic again. I do get a chuckle when Catholics I'm going with [this started out as a suicide watch for a Catholic friend] ask me "How do you like 'Mass?' " I answer, I'm going to CHURCH in the mornings... I get blank stares. Funny really. And when I comment on the "Sermon" instead of the approved term "Homily" I get another round of blank stares. Being able to think "Catholic" and "Protestant" at the same time is like being bi-lingual... Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 you can't be both at the same time. But yes, it is two languages. I speak both also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 It's funny how much we read the Bible at mass huh? An actual Bible--with Catholics! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 incredible! I do sometimes have a hard time conversing with the protestants at my school because of semantical issues and differences... Kinda smells of elderberries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 semantical issues? you don't like Jews? hahahaha j/k I'll be gone for a couple days...gotta go visit my mom...but I'll be back to keep up. till then, love, peace and God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 ummmm, you're thinking of SEMITICAL issues. Anyways, Have a great trip and some quality time with your mom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Eminence Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 [i]Laudetur Jesus Christus.[/i] Praised be Jesus Christ. Please forgive me, but I just can't resist asking this... are semantics a seminal issue among semites? Another shared word with sometime divergent meanings: sanctuary [b]"...for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples."[/b] Isaiah 56:7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 12 2004, 02:25 PM'] you can't be both at the same time. But yes, it is two languages. I speak both also [/quote] Ah, but are you fluent in both? I think as you learn more of one, you become rusty in the other... but I really don't want that to happen to me. Maybe your better at it than I am, though. (They say younger brains pick up the nuances of languages better.) and have you ever tried to learn a foreign language and you see a word that looks like English... and you try to use that word only to discover that you used it wrong? Like you just said that you were pregnant instead of embarassed... (then you *were* embarassed! ) I think it's like that with Catholicese and Protestantish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immaculata Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 hehe, that reminds me of a silly story.. A friend of mine is the lone Jew at our Catholic school... One day he was looking over his Hebrew lesson for Temple that night, and this kid came up to him and was like, "Hey, do you speak Jewish?" My friend just looked at him and said, "No, do you speak Catholic?" Personally, I took two years of Catholic.. (Latin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Mass is nothing like a sermon. Mass is not a service. Mass is Heaven on earth. God is physically present, just as in the temple before Christ. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 maaan, i'm just glad that this thread isn't too terribly offensive. bruce, i gotta admit that when i see ur name i never know what to expect! nuttin but luv for u dawg! pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Bruce, I still say there's hope for you yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Mar 12 2004, 04:18 PM'] Long story, but suffice it to say, that for the past three weeks, I've attended daily "Mass" 7:30AM style....and NO...I'm NOT going to become a "Journey Homer" Catholic again. I do get a chuckle when Catholics I'm going with [this started out as a suicide watch for a Catholic friend] ask me "How do you like 'Mass?' " I answer, I'm going to CHURCH in the mornings... I get blank stares. Funny really. And when I comment on the "Sermon" instead of the approved term "Homily" I get another round of blank stares. Being able to think "Catholic" and "Protestant" at the same time is like being bi-lingual... Peace. [/quote] How is your attitude a Christian one? If you are in a Catholic's house; especially God's House; you should show proper respect. You go into the Mass with contempt, yet you have never proven the Church wrong. You have failed to provide us with which Church was established by Christ if it wasn't the Catholic Church. You seem to have disappeared for a while when last asked. If you cannot find any evidence against the Catholic Church, and all evidence points to the Catholic Church and you reject the Catholic Church, how are you not rejecting Christ? [b]Luke 10:16[/b] "[color=red]He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me[/color]" [b]John 13:20 [/b]"[color=red]Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.[/color]" At the least wouldn't it be logical to open your heart and show proper respect to God... just in case you're wrong? You are disrespecting Christ by your attitude in His House. Even though you don't think you are in Christ's house, but yet can't prove the Church wrong... nor have you been able to point to any other church that could be the Church built by Christ. The fact that everyone in the Mass is gathered in the Mass in Christ's name, is not Christ present? I would be interested to see what proof you can come up with before 1500 AD to show that the Catholic Church is not the Church established by Christ. If you can't, you have a grave obligation to hunt for proof and if you cannot find that proof, and all roads lead to Rome, what do you do? (Do you want me to ask this on another thread or would you like to start one?) I don't understand how you remain non-Catholic. You know the NT came from Councils of the Catholic Church and that you have not produced anything pointing to what Church is the real Church - just boggles my mind to why you continue to hold contempt for what you can't prove wrong. One would think that you would at least show respect since you cannot prove the Church that gave us the NT wrong. [b]Romans 14:17 [/b]For the kingdom of God is not a matter of food and drink, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the holy Spirit; [b]18 [/b] whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by others. [b]19 [/b] Let us then pursue what leads to peace and to building up one another. [b]20 [/b] For the sake of food, do not destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to become a stumbling block by eating; [b]21 [/b] it is good not to eat meat or drink wine or [u]do anything that causes your brother to stumble.[/u] [b]22 [/b] Keep the faith (that) you have to yourself in the presence of God; blessed is the one who does not condemn himself for what he approves. [b]23 [/b] But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because this is not from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin. By your lack of respect to the Mass you could be a stumbling block for those within. What would you say to someone who came into your church and showed disrespect... what would you think... what if that person by showing of disrpect caused another to sin? The lack of respect for the Mass will not bring you closer to Christ. If you are wishing to come closer to Christ and a lover of Truth, then you have an obligation to weigh the facts with an open heart and remember that where you are could be the wrong place. Everything needs to add up. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Ironmonk, you may well be right about the attitude behind Bruce's post, however the point I hope he is making about the difference between language used by catholics and protestants is an interesting one! I hope that I'm not the only 'soon to be catholic' who gets confused at the different meaning given to the language used - my understanding of the term 'worship' which came up in another thread for example! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Bruce, I'm a bit surprised that you don't use the language. IMO, its a respect thing. For example, when I go to church with some of my protestant friends (I still go to Mass on those days also, just so no one jumps on me), I don't call it going to Mass. I call it going to church. I've learned pretty well how to speak both languages. In a Protestant group, I know better than to talk about "vocations" and think that it has the same meaning as when I'm in Catholic circles. But you're right, the language thing is funny at times. I was talking with a friend once and mentioned that I went to PSR from 1st to 8th grade, without realizing that a Protestant has no idea what PSR is. Or the first time my friend mentioned going to Sunday School (which, for me, had always meant the place where small kids go who would just make noise during Mass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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